tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post1319126241152646722..comments2024-03-29T04:00:27.058-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: The story of Y-haplogroup QDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-76479154601561386292018-01-15T08:41:47.539-08:002018-01-15T08:41:47.539-08:00Found out couple of days ago that my husband’s mat...Found out couple of days ago that my husband’s maternal Grandfather was yDNA Q M378 L214 L215 S325. Surname is Hill. jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283765275775165180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-86557395349991933952017-09-12T15:31:59.744-07:002017-09-12T15:31:59.744-07:00By the way - re: Q1a Khvalynsk dude, there's m...By the way - re: Q1a Khvalynsk dude, there's mtDNA haplogroup C4 in this area at the same time. So another uniparental marker with a deep link to the Americas.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906194112935320590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-55046620048468882792017-09-12T10:50:22.275-07:002017-09-12T10:50:22.275-07:00@Kristiina - The Yenisei basin timeline matches up...@Kristiina - The Yenisei basin timeline matches up with Xiongu defeating and driving out the Indo-European Yuezhi. <br /><br />For the Jewish Q1b - isn't there quite a bit of old Q lineages in West Asia?Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906194112935320590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-24017279168717584692017-09-12T09:21:59.338-07:002017-09-12T09:21:59.338-07:00Is the thing with Scandinavian Q settled yet thoug...Is the thing with Scandinavian Q settled yet though? I've always considered the PIE/CWC origin as the most logical but has there been any actual ancient ydna Q samples from Northern Europe?Grizzlorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14722675325480506521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-73160590948499614842017-09-12T06:58:40.037-07:002017-09-12T06:58:40.037-07:00@Gioiello Of course I am not sure about that. It i...@Gioiello Of course I am not sure about that. It is the paper which argues that. I am also surprised myself. <br /><br />In any case, the estimated age of Q1b1a1-L245 exceeds the Judaism if Judaism is 3000-4000 years old and OMRS of Q1b1a1 is 10.9/5.4.Kristiinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994105875605082112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-14586872697587657802017-09-12T06:19:45.088-07:002017-09-12T06:19:45.088-07:00@ Kristiina
"Other old subgroups are Jewish Q...@ Kristiina<br />"Other old subgroups are Jewish Q1b1a1-L245 (OMRS 10.9/5.4)"<br /><br />Are you sure that this Q-L245 Jewish cluster is so old or rather a very recent one introgressed from somewhere and after the diaspora?<br />Unfortunately I haven't access to the YFull group of hg Q (why?), but it seems that these haplotypes are very low variated and here in the tree: <br />Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-30501294800557170542017-09-12T05:18:34.470-07:002017-09-12T05:18:34.470-07:00"The authors forgotten the amazing south-scan..."The authors forgotten the amazing south-scandinavian haplogroup Q"<br /><br />No, they haven't. They suggest that Q1a2a1a2-L804 is a farmer lineage that spread with Neolithic farmers. Well, I am not fully convinced.Kristiinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994105875605082112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-77682188210425953842017-09-12T04:41:52.039-07:002017-09-12T04:41:52.039-07:00the authors forgotten the amazing south-scandinavi...the authors forgotten the amazing south-scandinavian haplogroup Q.gjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17280884639166555041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-17246136422609821022017-09-12T02:03:01.720-07:002017-09-12T02:03:01.720-07:00Expansion times in Table 1 are worth a look. South...Expansion times in Table 1 are worth a look. South Siberian Q1a2a1-L54 (Yenisei basin) is one of the youngest subgroups! TMRCA is only 2.4/3.3 OMRS while East Asian Q1a1a1-M120 is the oldest subgroup with OMRS of 11.6/6.4. Again the highest frequency does not equal the oldest age.<br /><br />Other old subgroups are Jewish Q1b1a1-L245 (OMRS 10.9/5.4) and Scandinavian Q1a2a1a2-L804 (OMRS 7.1/6.3).<Kristiinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994105875605082112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-69761250004350350622017-09-12T01:48:55.955-07:002017-09-12T01:48:55.955-07:00This gives some support to the Ket Na dene connect...This gives some support to the Ket Na dene connection.Palacistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00914286363588675042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-4839536563826626292017-09-12T01:08:34.893-07:002017-09-12T01:08:34.893-07:00This phrase makes more sense. But Neolithic is dis...This phrase makes more sense. But Neolithic is disputable.<br />-----<br />Q1a1a1-M120 appears almost only in Eastern Asia, and its diversity implies that haplogroup Q has migrated from north to south with the ancestors of current Han Chinese during the Neolithic period (Su et al. 2000; Wells et al. 2001; Tarazona-Santos et al. 2001; Wen et al. 2004; Gayden et al. 2007; Nonaka et al. 2007; Zhong Aramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717857095182763668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-38776514817756670602017-09-12T01:04:08.875-07:002017-09-12T01:04:08.875-07:00Q1a1a1-M120 migration on that map doesn't make...Q1a1a1-M120 migration on that map doesn't make much sense. Imho it invaded China from North. Chinese has found a lot of Q1a1 in 3000 year old samples. There was a paper about that.Aramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717857095182763668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-89088602300326301112017-09-12T00:53:21.943-07:002017-09-12T00:53:21.943-07:00SW Siberia? Hmm And how then the Q1a2 L54 guy has ...SW Siberia? Hmm And how then the Q1a2 L54 guy has found an X2 woman there more than 15.000 years ago when we have X2 in Iran Neolithic.Aramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717857095182763668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-17517212195425424372017-09-12T00:03:17.012-07:002017-09-12T00:03:17.012-07:00Cool, only skimmed it
They seem to imply a SW sib...Cool, only skimmed it <br />They seem to imply a SW siberian origin for Q overall. Makes sense I guess Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.com