tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post2277177242004619635..comments2024-03-28T23:21:04.175-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: The great male migrationDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-37011018455117042652017-06-17T12:44:11.907-07:002017-06-17T12:44:11.907-07:00Pseudoscience garbage to the max.Pseudoscience garbage to the max.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-44077540540192943062017-02-25T15:57:54.565-08:002017-02-25T15:57:54.565-08:00André de Vasconcelos said..
"Oh no, it's...André de Vasconcelos said..<br /><br />"Oh no, it's the "Mongol syndrome" again."<br /><br />"Cavalry charges in the Chalcolithic are as realistic as battle tanks in the dark ages."<br /><br />1) The Numidians from the classical era didn't use saddles, stirrups or bridles.<br /><br />The Numidians from the classical era didn't mount cavalry charges - Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398462488549380796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-985508465649058952017-02-23T04:14:33.656-08:002017-02-23T04:14:33.656-08:00@Karl_K
Yes, migrating women in wagon...@Karl_K<br /> Yes, migrating women in wagons or on foot have less children.....................jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283765275775165180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-12972564704404163332017-02-23T03:51:37.339-08:002017-02-23T03:51:37.339-08:00@jv
Well, you can imagine women doing whatever yo...@jv<br /><br />Well, you can imagine women doing whatever you want in a wagon, but it won't lead you to having more children.Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-85547330445059802992017-02-22T23:02:00.869-08:002017-02-22T23:02:00.869-08:00Andre
I know you weren't, i was being a smart...Andre <br />I know you weren't, i was being a smart alec Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-15822565977675955662017-02-22T22:36:17.699-08:002017-02-22T22:36:17.699-08:00I was nicknaming the cavalry obcession, not trying...I was nicknaming the cavalry obcession, not trying to insult him. Sorry if it sounded like that, maybe I should have called it Hunnic or Scythian syndrome André de Vasconceloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14661586310311442995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-64330352509862441702017-02-22T21:31:05.711-08:002017-02-22T21:31:05.711-08:00"it's the "Mongol syndrome" aga..."it's the "Mongol syndrome" again"<br /><br />I think the politically correct term is Trisomy 21Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-13430304827175346282017-02-22T17:55:17.176-08:002017-02-22T17:55:17.176-08:00I'm suupper critical of the conclusion many mo...I'm suupper critical of the conclusion many more Steppe men than Steppe women migrated into Europe based on a handful of LN/BA European genomes. I think we should wait for more data. <br /><br />Suprisingly of the Bell Beaker, Corded Ware, Unetice mtDNA published so far Bell beaker has the most U5a and U4. Unetice has more than Corded Ware. We need more samples but I think it shows lots of Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-20488583232653081072017-02-22T09:11:46.355-08:002017-02-22T09:11:46.355-08:00@ser nam
"even a small horse plowing into a ...@ser nam<br /><br />"even a small horse plowing into a guy on foot or a group galloping at a bunch of local farmers would be an advantage"<br /><br />Oh no, it's the "Mongol syndrome" again. No, it wouldn't and it wasn't, which is why armies wouldn't do that for thousands of years. For a long time, as most of other domesticated animals, they were used to drag André de Vasconceloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14661586310311442995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-23514120945339650222017-02-22T07:57:23.678-08:002017-02-22T07:57:23.678-08:00@Karl_K
I imagine migrating women i...@Karl_K<br /> I imagine migrating women in a wagon have less children than settled Neo Farmer women!jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283765275775165180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-45826903237853052232017-02-22T07:54:44.079-08:002017-02-22T07:54:44.079-08:00Even if this is "regurgitated" news, I&#...Even if this is "regurgitated" news, I'm always eager for any news of my H6a1a grandmothers migration from the Yamnaya Culture to Corded Ware Culture.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283765275775165180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-85325948232834581992017-02-22T07:51:25.390-08:002017-02-22T07:51:25.390-08:00@jv
Indeed. The women who migrated are so overloo...@jv<br /><br />Indeed. The women who migrated are so overlooked, yet they likely came in equal numbers. Women just couldn't start taking more husbands and making larger numbers of babies.Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-63106880522580389322017-02-22T07:44:20.324-08:002017-02-22T07:44:20.324-08:00Proud to be a descendant of that ONE migrating wom...Proud to be a descendant of that ONE migrating women for every TEN migrating men from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe to Northern/Central Europe. So enjoyable to study the Cultures of my ancient Grandmothers! jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283765275775165180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-46132140331841706692017-02-22T05:44:46.260-08:002017-02-22T05:44:46.260-08:00Apparently there were a large range of horses rang...Apparently there were a large range of horses ranging anything from 11 to 15 hands in Central Europe during the Bronze Age.The Heavier forest horses certainly didn't pop up out of nowhere. Where there not remains found a while back of the Frisian Horses probable ancestors in the Netherlands that dates back to 2000 bC. ?Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-38263370107394091222017-02-22T05:42:43.888-08:002017-02-22T05:42:43.888-08:00It's my postulate based on its unilateral char...It's my postulate based on its unilateral character (unless he was riding side saddle)<br />The evidence from botai is suggestive of domestication and use for secondary products (milk) and traction etc. No evidence for riding, although it is of course possible that attempts were being made to ride them <br />But without stirrups or psalias little control was conferred . Horsemanship came Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-3428634861445526112017-02-22T05:22:16.989-08:002017-02-22T05:22:16.989-08:00Has it been shown arthritis caused the wear? Anywa...Has it been shown arthritis caused the wear? Anyway Botai were supposed to be using horses much earlier and it's not hard to believe it spread.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05000112732712350375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-7394339271029374892017-02-22T04:44:40.900-08:002017-02-22T04:44:40.900-08:00You mean the one with Hip osteoarthritis and no ac...You mean the one with Hip osteoarthritis and no accompanying horse ?Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-46901619019424847742017-02-22T04:26:10.146-08:002017-02-22T04:26:10.146-08:00How old was the BB that is assumed to have been a ...How old was the BB that is assumed to have been a horse rider?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05000112732712350375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-82061829803315887112017-02-22T04:21:37.468-08:002017-02-22T04:21:37.468-08:00@Matt
Yes I noted your correction which is why ...@Matt <br /><br />Yes I noted your correction which is why I made my comment .;)Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-89568902369198547672017-02-22T04:07:31.545-08:002017-02-22T04:07:31.545-08:00Horse riding is from late 2nd millennium BC mates ...Horse riding is from late 2nd millennium BC mates , after that Horse-Chariots started to lose their importance . Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-42551769439017058332017-02-22T03:58:40.907-08:002017-02-22T03:58:40.907-08:00If you mean in at war Nirjhar that's certainly...If you mean in at war Nirjhar that's certainly arguable, even mounted infantry have maneuver advantages. and even a small horse plowing into a guy on foot or a group galloping at a bunch of local farmers would be an advantage. <br />Roman era Germanic cavalry were considered effective against better armed and probably better trained enemies than BA Europeans and they didn't use saddles orAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05000112732712350375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-39445658377211638592017-02-22T03:54:33.666-08:002017-02-22T03:54:33.666-08:00I think horses can survive in much colder climates...I think horses can survive in much colder climates than cattle and they are better at digging for food in the snow and breaking up ice. That was surely a positive for the Steppe environment. But yes I venture to say that cattle were probably ridden before horses were ridden.Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-89408542013516852332017-02-22T03:38:25.013-08:002017-02-22T03:38:25.013-08:00Come on lets be serious here folks. Before the inv...Come on lets be serious here folks. Before the invention of horse war chariots , there weren't any difference of having a horse or a bovine !. <br /><br />The place where horse got domesticated originally, that's a different issue. <br /><br />Neolithic Arabia has sculptures , indicating domestication and also in Neolithic Uzbekistan, there is evidence from sites like Ayakagytma , aDNA Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-16468473050247896202017-02-22T03:29:27.488-08:002017-02-22T03:29:27.488-08:00Thanks Ser Nam. Yes I agree. Thanks Ser Nam. Yes I agree. Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-80484181226702450492017-02-22T03:23:49.001-08:002017-02-22T03:23:49.001-08:00Which drama are you referring to ?"
I meant...Which drama are you referring to ?" <br /><br />I meant some earlier comments and different discussions over speculation and educated guesswork. Didn't mean to give the impression I was referring to you, nor was my reply meant to be sarcastic or ridicule you.<br /><br /> Yeah your points are valid but the migrants probably varied and likely took a bit more than a sleeping bag while Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05000112732712350375noreply@blogger.com