tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post4528194313211659810..comments2024-03-29T01:11:37.621-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: Genetic continuity and change in prehistoric Ireland (Lara Cassidy Thesis)Davidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-49385177658628786212020-05-27T18:19:12.380-07:002020-05-27T18:19:12.380-07:00@JuanRivera
These samples are already in the Glob...@JuanRivera<br /><br />These samples are already in the Global25 datasheets.<br /><br />RUS_Baikal_BA:GLZ003<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:KAG002<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:KPT001<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:KPT002<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:KPT003<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:KPT004<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:KPT006<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:STB001<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:ZPL001<br />RUS_Baikal_BA:ZPL002<br />RUS_Baikal_BA_o:GLZ001<br />RUS_Baikal_BA_o:GLZ002<Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-19272514736038658962020-05-27T17:12:06.635-07:002020-05-27T17:12:06.635-07:00San Sebastian looks awesome.San Sebastian looks awesome.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17386123430230365251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-29552306758166061802020-05-27T10:40:11.662-07:002020-05-27T10:40:11.662-07:00Davidski can you plz just ban Gaska already.Davidski can you plz just ban Gaska already.Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-113089215146294812020-05-27T10:35:44.130-07:002020-05-27T10:35:44.130-07:00That I1 was miss reported. It is I (xI2a2, I2a1)That I1 was miss reported. It is I (xI2a2, I2a1)Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-2676879142866232772020-05-27T09:33:53.495-07:002020-05-27T09:33:53.495-07:00There is definitely more at play than just genetic...There is definitely more at play than just genetic height and WHG ancestry when it comes to stature among modern day Europeans. Nutrition is another big factor I think. The very tall average height for the Dutch is related to nutrition surely since until fairly recently the average Dutch standing male height was not all that tall. The Western Balkans on the other hand was always overall a very Mr. Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15840493145076476113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-7384629813526564152020-05-27T08:46:15.289-07:002020-05-27T08:46:15.289-07:00@Srtmil - what?@Srtmil - what?Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07906194112935320590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-69950684095941506172020-05-27T08:18:45.929-07:002020-05-27T08:18:45.929-07:00Slightly off topic but did we ever confirm if the ...Slightly off topic but did we ever confirm if the blue dots here are modern and not ancient samples?<br /><br />https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5-rvA6IqHuE/Xb5t7hGmiTI/AAAAAAAAITs/KTUkvHFZJRUOZSDqn9y687kjQHuPcipAgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Ancient_samples.jpg<br /><br />Jatt_Scythianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07404099116513757448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-15872503699577044462020-05-27T01:52:15.148-07:002020-05-27T01:52:15.148-07:00@ AWood
How did you come to such a conclusion ? It...@ AWood<br />How did you come to such a conclusion ? It goes against the evidence <br />The I2a1b and I2a2a in British Neolithic point to France & the Rhineland, resp <br />These same people migrated into Iberia during the middle neolithic and pre-BB copper age. <br /><br />The native Iberian foragers are evidently C1a & I1 Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-83657593875293639492020-05-26T23:52:50.809-07:002020-05-26T23:52:50.809-07:00@AWood
We have over 1,000 Bronze Age genomes in E...@AWood<br /><br />We have over 1,000 Bronze Age genomes in Europe and DF27 has only appeared in Iberia (17 samples) - this lineage is not in Ireland, England, Germany, France, Italy, Greece or Poland-I know this is going to be a trauma for many people but you can start thinking that Df27 on the islands probably arrived with the Iberian military units that participated in the Roman conquest-The Gaskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17412266725782255586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-48061037434372505922020-05-26T23:14:30.476-07:002020-05-26T23:14:30.476-07:00@Andrew, a doctoral thesis that is not published f...@Andrew, a doctoral thesis that is not published for three years only has the value of providing the results obtained, but its conclusions are obviously not of scientific value. Perhaps this is common practice in Ireland but in any case it is an absurd practice. If you then finally publish it and immediately withdraw it for another three years we can only think that something strange is happeningGaskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17412266725782255586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-78675786649081415912020-05-26T21:52:12.928-07:002020-05-26T21:52:12.928-07:00When his ancestors have participated in every mayo...When his ancestors have participated in every mayour event that have formed the country.<br /><br />10/ 10 american pionners<br />9/10 ancestors that fought in the independence war<br />8/ 10 american civil war<br />6/ 10 ancestors that fought in the ww1<br />5/ 10 ancestors that fought in the ww2<br /><br />I cant consider the post ww2 inmigrant americans Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-5777807787793157672020-05-26T20:28:57.545-07:002020-05-26T20:28:57.545-07:00@Gaska,
If it's any consolation, I believe t...@Gaska, <br /><br />If it's any consolation, I believe the British/Irish Neolithic is entirely Iberian, you can see this in their Y chromosomes. However, this does not include R1b, so clearly Iberia has nothing to do with its ethnogenesis.AWoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14966600445259901063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-55540431333446189242020-05-26T20:23:20.456-07:002020-05-26T20:23:20.456-07:00I suspect that the change from G2a/H2 to I2a occur...I suspect that the change from G2a/H2 to I2a occurred in Spain as a Spanish paper suggested a few years back. I think you will find these I2a lineages are common in Neolithic Spain as well. Therefore, by the time the Atlantic Neolithic hits France and then traverses to southern Britain -> Ireland, most of the lines are I2-M423 (Loschbour), I2-M284, I2a(xM26). I believe the Cassidy paper AWoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14966600445259901063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-4624639194074186422020-05-26T11:36:34.905-07:002020-05-26T11:36:34.905-07:00@RicHern "How long time does a person and his...@RicHern "How long time does a person and his/her descendants have to live in a region before they are classified as "native" to a region?" It entirely depends upon what you want to learn by asking the question. Operationally, modern DNA studies usually look for four native born grandparents.<br /><br />@Gaska "That said, as always, the conclusions of the thesis are a andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-88624923009664297452020-05-26T10:50:27.908-07:002020-05-26T10:50:27.908-07:00Supplementary Information for
Ancient genomes from...Supplementary Information for<br />Ancient genomes from present-day France unveil 7,000 years of its demographic history.<br />https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/suppl/2020/05/20/1918034117.DCSupplemental/pnas.1918034117.sapp.pdfVladimirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17295200970474316683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-39700683268407816282020-05-26T10:47:24.727-07:002020-05-26T10:47:24.727-07:00https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/05/20/1918...https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/05/20/1918034117.short?rss=1Vladimirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17295200970474316683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-49120586307800480452020-05-26T10:06:09.213-07:002020-05-26T10:06:09.213-07:00According to this: https://byustudies.byu.edu/char...According to this: https://byustudies.byu.edu/charts/6-4-estimated-distribution-citizenship-roman-empire<br /><br />in the middle of the first century AD, an estimated 55% of the population of city of Rome were citizens, whilst 15% were noncitizen immigrants and 30% were slaves. Across Italy 70% were citizens whilst 5% were noncitizen immigrants and 25% were slaves. <br /><br />In contrast, in Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17386123430230365251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-53241689510044815942020-05-26T09:48:44.578-07:002020-05-26T09:48:44.578-07:00Does anyone have a link to the study this article ...Does anyone have a link to the study this article discusses or is there no preprint available yet?<br /><br />https://www.archaeology.org/issues/380-2005/digs/8604-digs-poland-viking-burials<br /><br />"The discovery of the burials of four medieval knights near the Polish village of Cieple has highlighted the region’s connections to Scandinavia during the reign of the first Polish kings"GregHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02267296444285717436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-33201416430799630702020-05-26T08:00:12.942-07:002020-05-26T08:00:12.942-07:00@All
7,000years of demographic history in France
...@All<br />7,000years of demographic history in France<br /><br />A team led by scientists from the Institut Jacques Monod (CNRS/Université de Paris)1 have shown that <br />French prehistory was punctuated by two waves of migration: the first during the Neolithic period, about 6,300 years ago, the second during the Bronze Age, about 4,200 years ago. This study, published in PNAS on May 25, which J.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02333765573671985337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-31063147515905176472020-05-26T04:33:55.152-07:002020-05-26T04:33:55.152-07:00Although they are overwhelmingly L21 and we are ov...Although they are overwhelmingly L21 and we are overwhelmingly df27, Irish and Basques share certain genetic and cultural (Catholicism) peculiarities that make us a little different from other Europeans - we are both the most legitimate descendants of Western Bbs, our genomes are very similar to those first p312 of 4500 years ago (maybe that's why I have dozens of Irish matches) and we also Gaskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17412266725782255586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-55875930366614195352020-05-26T04:24:54.940-07:002020-05-26T04:24:54.940-07:00@Samuel Andrews
"Fregel 2019, who modelled B...@Samuel Andrews<br /><br />"Fregel 2019, who modelled Bronze age Sicily using IranN doesn't know there are Bronze age genomes from Near East which are much better references such as Kuras Araxes"<br /><br />I think they are more interested in modelling the deep sources of ancestry in these populations and since Kura-Araxes had Iran_N and CHG ancestry (closely related populations) gamerz_Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10051893158540001073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-38411750005844676052020-05-26T04:20:11.977-07:002020-05-26T04:20:11.977-07:00@Simon_W
"Greek admixture must have increase...@Simon_W<br /><br />"Greek admixture must have increased the Anatolia_BA"<br /><br />Not entirely sure, how much Anatolia_BA did ancient Greece have? It's hard to calculate imo because the ancestral components are similar.<br /><br />I doubt that populations from Magna Grecia are solely responsible for the Near Eastern shift observed in the Imperial samples. Simply because the gamerz_Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10051893158540001073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-25418336365685197772020-05-26T04:02:53.325-07:002020-05-26T04:02:53.325-07:00That's why so many leftist liberals have a pro...That's why so many leftist liberals have a problem with Zionism and hence with Israel. Because Zionism is the idea of creating a state for all people of Jewish descent, no matter what language they speak or if they believe in Judaism at all.Simon_Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454497745874406294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-19544042954555618002020-05-26T03:53:12.194-07:002020-05-26T03:53:12.194-07:00@Samuel Andrews
Swiss mainstream media have littl...@Samuel Andrews<br /><br />Swiss mainstream media have little problem with calling the Neolithic pile dwellers or the Celts our ancestors. I think the scandal that comes with population genetics is the idea that DNA can tell something about ethnic affiliation, or in other words, that there's a biological/genetic aspect to ethnic groups. Especially in Germany this is an absolute no-go. That&#Simon_Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454497745874406294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-73891064521470424722020-05-26T03:14:19.079-07:002020-05-26T03:14:19.079-07:00Regarding to Cassidy's thesis, we have to than...Regarding to Cassidy's thesis, we have to thank her for the work she has done because it is very complicated to rescue these ancient genomes. That said, as always, the conclusions of the thesis are a disaster, which is usual when a work is published without updating the available genetic data -for example Cassidy uses the data published by Rui Martiniano on Iberia 4 years ago when P312 only Gaskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17412266725782255586noreply@blogger.com