tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post5167507483520103062..comments2024-03-29T00:39:22.481-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: R1b-V88: out of the Balkans and into Africa?Davidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger153125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-57272196213115187372023-07-31T19:56:26.788-07:002023-07-31T19:56:26.788-07:00You need to get in touch with someone who can expl...You need to get in touch with someone who can explain to you how these different tests work and what they show. Try this forum.<br /><br />Anthrogenica.com<br /><br />Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-49612251337313824872023-07-31T19:34:20.896-07:002023-07-31T19:34:20.896-07:00I've done more than My True Ancestry though, i...I've done more than My True Ancestry though, including Nebula genomics, ancestry dot com, and genome link. I am of the Y7777 branch of r1b v88. Mindquesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02970723688037989356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-59248860562173759622023-07-31T17:45:05.475-07:002023-07-31T17:45:05.475-07:00Don't do Deep Dives at My True Ancestry.
It&#...Don't do Deep Dives at My True Ancestry.<br /><br />It's a waste of money!<br /><br />Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-71585811106188476952023-07-31T13:58:04.596-07:002023-07-31T13:58:04.596-07:00Hey guys, I found out I am r1b v88 according to YF...Hey guys, I found out I am r1b v88 according to YFull DNA. My paternal lineage is rather mysterious, the men in my family have come from Egypt, but primarily from Malta as my surname is Maltese nobility and very rare. I have done a deep dive on my genetic ancestry and I am overwhelmingly Celtic-Germanic with less than 1% sub-saharan (0.8%) which may be negligible. My ancient DNA matched many Mindquesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02970723688037989356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-37578086202185509112022-05-06T20:26:20.569-07:002022-05-06T20:26:20.569-07:00There is very good reason to think that the Y-DNA ...There is very good reason to think that the Y-DNA R1b-V88 bearing Chadic people are derived from migrants who originated in the Bug-Dneister culture of Ukraine departing after 5400 BCE and before 5200 BCE when there is well dated evidence for the ethnogenesis of the Chadic people.<br /><br />I rely in this conclusions on pastoralism, the archaological history of the Pontic-Caspian area and its andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172964121659914379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-57153702701092024512017-09-03T21:20:10.210-07:002017-09-03T21:20:10.210-07:00According to the last paper from Mesolithic Scandi...According to the last paper from Mesolithic Scandinavia there were I2 in the villages of Northern Norway 7.500 years ago - with markers othetwise found in R1a.<br /><br />It does indeed start looking like the dynasties of I2, R1a and R1b have a common origin in Paleolithic Europe - where an industrious domestic production - of various foodproducts - were neccesary to survive both the Late batmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-83683990604843415102017-09-03T20:41:01.395-07:002017-09-03T20:41:01.395-07:00Still chasing goose-bumps?
The FINAL reset of the...Still chasing goose-bumps?<br /><br />The FINAL reset of the Eurasian genome - defining the pioneering groups of ALL Eurasian populations of todays world can be directly connected to the Younger Dryas period and the Megafaunal Extinction Event, some 5.000 years after the end of LGM.batmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-76143081417170414542017-09-03T20:35:09.061-07:002017-09-03T20:35:09.061-07:00The problem that NONE of these LGM-refugias are kn...The problem that NONE of these LGM-refugias are known to have survived the Younger Dryas and the Megafaunal Extinction Event - striking across North America and Northern Eurasia 12.930-12.100 years BP.batmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-82090863518030830182017-09-03T20:29:30.574-07:002017-09-03T20:29:30.574-07:00Sure.
These characteristics are actually found in...Sure.<br /><br />These characteristics are actually found in all the cementaries known from Mesolithic Eurasia - from Catal Houyk to Motala.<br /><br />Moreover, today we know that the first cementaries around the Black Sea and the Baltics were made by populations that ALK was (re-)started off only AFTER the Younger Dryas, 12.000 BP.<br /><br />Which means that most, if not all, haplogroups foundbatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-75211479892933883982017-09-03T18:53:36.425-07:002017-09-03T18:53:36.425-07:00Nice to see that you finally started viewing, rath...Nice to see that you finally started viewing, rather than pffffting, the links I provided some years ago... 😂batmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-35686301434031826222017-09-03T16:06:03.655-07:002017-09-03T16:06:03.655-07:00@Slumberry,
I guarantee you Pizza without tomatoe...@Slumberry,<br /><br />I guarantee you Pizza without tomatoes is alternative pizza. Pizza originally had tomato sauce, then some people decided to take it off.Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-24505107895763165822017-09-03T16:04:27.766-07:002017-09-03T16:04:27.766-07:00The Mesolithic Baltic HGs with R1b1a had 30% EHG a...The Mesolithic Baltic HGs with R1b1a had 30% EHG admix and lots of U5a. The Baltic Hgs with 90%+ WHG had Y DNA I2a and mostly U5b. They look like two different HG tribes. Also, WHG might have some ANE admixture. Point is R1b definitely could be ANE or EHG. Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-11220783185244580382017-09-03T13:55:07.134-07:002017-09-03T13:55:07.134-07:00@ Gioiello
Villabruna man is not from Villabruna,...@ Gioiello<br /><br />Villabruna man is not from Villabruna, Italy. <br /><br />During the period, big game will have certainly traveled along that line, following topography and the ebb and flow of ice sheets and game migrations, but that area is not necessarily the best or easiest hunting grounds in the region during your time of interest. To find better hunting ground during that time, Bogdanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07542017432406239476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-17841511550902354962017-09-03T01:36:41.956-07:002017-09-03T01:36:41.956-07:00Ok. Seriously this thread was quite refreshing. I ...Ok. Seriously this thread was quite refreshing. I look again to this situation and I must say that R1b from main Europe (not Eastern) is quite possible. <br />Aramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717857095182763668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-25355058506789647572017-09-03T00:26:49.809-07:002017-09-03T00:26:49.809-07:00@AWood: Can we even talk about "WHG-EHG split...@AWood: Can we even talk about "WHG-EHG split" as a process? EHG seems to be younger than WHG and a result of post-glaciation ANE + WHG mixing in the newly available hunting grounds (then some 5 ky independent evolution of course). <br />If i have to guess R1b was a WHG lineage and R1a is an ANE lineage. The population that was the main carrier of R1 was split by the LGM, and most of Slumberyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05139930329199925111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-61465100043995706972017-09-03T00:12:42.732-07:002017-09-03T00:12:42.732-07:00Samuel: I often eat pizza without tomato. There ar...Samuel: I often eat pizza without tomato. There are alternative sauces. And it is still called pizza. So you can have pizza without tomatoes. :)Slumberyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05139930329199925111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-59724656336195854822017-09-02T19:48:09.888-07:002017-09-02T19:48:09.888-07:00@ Samuel Andrews
I thank you for your defense of t...@ Samuel Andrews<br />I thank you for your defense of the origin of the "pizza" in Italy, even though the question has a little meaning to me: who invented the "pizza" is a problem of a little importance, if not for demonstrating how many and to which level are the prejuduces (and I'd say the hate ) against Italy, but I'd say above all the memory of Rome. All what I Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-57838428117720828622017-09-02T19:24:19.500-07:002017-09-02T19:24:19.500-07:00@Chad,
That Persian stuff is R1b1* and Italian pi...@Chad,<br /><br />That Persian stuff is R1b1* and Italian pizza R1b P312. Pizza took its modern form and expanded out of Italy. <br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza<br /><br />"Modern pizza developed in Naples, when tomato was added to the focaccia in the late 18th century."<br /><br />TOMATO! The page also states Foraccia, proto Pizza (lacks Tomato sauce), had Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-20512794884097778892017-09-02T13:45:36.696-07:002017-09-02T13:45:36.696-07:00@ Chad Rohlfsen
"Only after the migration out...@ Chad Rohlfsen<br />"Only after the migration out of the Garden Refugium. I have argued for this over 10 years and thousands of letters. When you find a tomato out of the garden, let me know".<br /><br />In Italian yours would be said "spirito di patata" (spirit of potato), I'd say that yours is here a "spirit of tomato", but I doubt that you are able to Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-29563535695023912772017-09-02T13:10:06.585-07:002017-09-02T13:10:06.585-07:00Only after the migration out of the Garden Refugiu...Only after the migration out of the Garden Refugium. I have argued for this over 10 years and thousands of letters. When you find a tomato out of the garden, let me know.Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118937611048574688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-51828742400791113452017-09-02T13:07:26.140-07:002017-09-02T13:07:26.140-07:00Lol. Smartass. Look up Persian use of a flatbread ...Lol. Smartass. Look up Persian use of a flatbread with cheese and dates. All seriousness and no Trumpello.Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118937611048574688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-24258903158857515482017-09-02T12:47:57.841-07:002017-09-02T12:47:57.841-07:00"A last somebody that is able to see the flaw..."A last somebody that is able to see the flawless logic behind an out-of-America scenario."<br /><br />I have been over this in hundreds of letters. The fst distances leave no doubt, even accounting for drift. It is also possible that the tomatoes picked up their oregano admixture before the out of america event.<br />Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-48729390023802229092017-09-02T11:02:32.439-07:002017-09-02T11:02:32.439-07:00@Samuel Andrews
"You can't have pizza wi...@Samuel Andrews<br /><br />"<i>You can't have pizza without tomatoes. Tomatoes are an American vegatable which came to Eurafrica after 1492 AD and therefore the ancient Persians could not have had a dish similar to Pizza.</i>"<br /><br />A last somebody that is able to see the flawless logic behind an out-of-America scenario.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-86509441977756828372017-09-02T09:46:56.125-07:002017-09-02T09:46:56.125-07:00I'm dead serious right now. Pizza is from Ital...I'm dead serious right now. Pizza is from Italy no ifs or buts. "Pizza" itself is an Italian word. Pizza became a world-wide dish because many Italians immigrated into America and then big American producers spread it across the world. <br /><br />You can't have pizza without tomatoes. Tomatoes are an American vegatable which came to Eurafrica after 1492 AD and therefore the Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-91408909250781570852017-09-02T09:06:52.195-07:002017-09-02T09:06:52.195-07:00@ AWood
"All of the R1b in Africa, at least...@ AWood <br /><br />"All of the R1b in Africa, at least the ones without etc etc"<br /><br />Another rider down from his nag on Damaskus road! Good to know that, but ask ADW_1981 if he writes that also on Anthrogenica. After that Rootsweb deleted the great part of my posts, that DNA-forums is out, eng-molgen too, and none goes on Worldfamilies for reading my more than 2000 posts, or theGioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.com