tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post6909211363784940028..comments2024-03-18T18:30:48.719-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: The genetic structure of the world's first farmers (Lazaridis et al. 2016 preprint)Davidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger349125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-41445680093276661322022-09-14T00:57:10.134-07:002022-09-14T00:57:10.134-07:00So a rakhigarhi indus valley sample shows 28% CHG,...So a rakhigarhi indus valley sample shows 28% CHG, in other calculators eastern european12%/caucasus19%/29%ANE overall.<br /><br />Who knows if CHG was higher to the west of IVC but modern pakistanis show 50% CHG or close, 34% south indian (IVC remain 74% south indian)Analisa Melanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17132040065578617462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-87172711426220475342016-11-18T04:35:28.804-08:002016-11-18T04:35:28.804-08:00Nothing deep about Anatolia neolithic -its not anc...Nothing deep about Anatolia neolithic -its not ancesteral, but related to whg and levant and iran.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11566494589399073241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-49897398317866271452016-11-17T20:28:48.745-08:002016-11-17T20:28:48.745-08:00"OBVIOUSLY" NOT."OBVIOUSLY" NOT.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11566494589399073241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-56325289930677242852016-11-17T20:23:52.367-08:002016-11-17T20:23:52.367-08:00Nothing deep about Anatolia neolithic -its not anc...Nothing deep about Anatolia neolithic -its not ancesteral, but related to whg and levant and iran.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11566494589399073241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-59663509052482189082016-11-17T03:10:19.029-08:002016-11-17T03:10:19.029-08:00You're confusing an abstract model with realit...You're confusing an abstract model with reality.<br /><br />There's no evidence of any admixture on the Bronze Age steppe from Neolithic Iran.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-15933547277617211492016-11-17T03:06:35.753-08:002016-11-17T03:06:35.753-08:00Except that that obviously wasnt the case. The ira...Except that that obviously wasnt the case. The iranian contribution to the anatolian and caucaus/steppe, as well as s asian is glaringUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11566494589399073241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-70577110301540947262016-11-08T19:35:50.342-08:002016-11-08T19:35:50.342-08:00The data in Lazaridis et al. 2016 and Broushaki et...The data in Lazaridis et al. 2016 and Broushaki et al. 2016 clearly shows that Iran cannot be the Indo-European homeland.<br /><br />That's because there are no direct links between the Copper/Bronze Age steppe and Neolithic Iran. Also, Neolithic Iranian ancestry in India is more closely associated with Dravidians. <br /><br />You're obviously too stupid to get this, but get it you will Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-49216297056511511942016-11-08T19:00:40.856-08:002016-11-08T19:00:40.856-08:00Davidsky said,
"Indo-Iranian languages came...Davidsky said, <br /><br />"Indo-Iranian languages came from the Steppe".<br /><br />At this point, there is no reason to uphold that. In fact, everything is pointing to NW Iran as the origin of IEs.blogmasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11834163614642737338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-354730195830627902016-11-08T18:28:27.728-08:002016-11-08T18:28:27.728-08:00Davidsky,
Just admit that you are wrong and butth...Davidsky,<br /><br />Just admit that you are wrong and butthurt. It's pretty clear based on the genetic evidence from Lazaridis et al. (2016) alone, that Iran sourced much of IE genes, not to mention other lines of evidence.<br />blogmasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11834163614642737338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-19203301494685426742016-11-08T10:35:53.103-08:002016-11-08T10:35:53.103-08:00Pre-PIE is not from Iran. PIE is not from Iran.
R...Pre-PIE is not from Iran. PIE is not from Iran.<br /><br />R1a and R1b are not from Iran.<br /><br />There is absolutely no ancestry from Iran on the Bronze Age steppe.<br /><br />This is a fact.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-40873141500852412812016-11-08T06:39:48.272-08:002016-11-08T06:39:48.272-08:00Colin Welling said...
"Iranocentrist said...
...Colin Welling said...<br />"Iranocentrist said...<br />Yes it is quite obviouse now that Iran was the source of steppe IE's."<br /><br />Do you realize that you are basically only arguing where Pre PIE came from. The last shared heritage of all IE peoples is the steppe. The most recent common ancestor is what makes something "proto". Iranian and Indic came from the steppe.blogmasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11834163614642737338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-86947984616964298042016-11-08T06:30:17.427-08:002016-11-08T06:30:17.427-08:00Confirms my suspicion from decades ago, that Iran ...Confirms my suspicion from decades ago, that Iran sourced IEs. Early R1b/R1a clearly show differentiation on the Iranian plateau. All of this is nicely in line with a plethora of archaeological and linguistic evidence for the Iranian origin of IEs, well presented at http://new-indology.blogspot.com/blogmasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11834163614642737338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-16376563669286361222016-11-08T06:24:31.558-08:002016-11-08T06:24:31.558-08:00Davidsky said:
"No it's not. Not even In...Davidsky said:<br /><br />"No it's not. Not even Indo-Iranian languages are from Iran.<br /><br />You're ignoring the part where they say "related to". The genetic structure in Iran changes from the Neolithic to the Chalcolithic, so Iran wasn't the source of the Iranian-like admixture on the steppe."<br /><br /><br />Now that's what I call denial, characterizedblogmasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11834163614642737338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-47734630437486339522016-08-29T15:02:02.324-07:002016-08-29T15:02:02.324-07:00The Buddha was most probably a White Scythian guy....The Buddha was most probably a White Scythian guy. One of the names of the Buddha used often is ‘Sakya Muni’ which translated to Sage (Munis) of the Sakyas. Now who are the Sakyas? Why they are the Scythians who invaded and conquered Northern India from Central Asia (Southern Ukraine/Southern Russia/ Kazakhstan ). Sythians were called ‘Sakas’ in Sanskrit.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11369299051042427171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-45918692156661002862016-08-05T12:11:45.641-07:002016-08-05T12:11:45.641-07:00Let's continue thread till Decan college offic...Let's continue thread till Decan college officially publishes dataAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160507912251045331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-41545430748024341092016-07-23T09:45:13.110-07:002016-07-23T09:45:13.110-07:00Protoindoeuropean started among R1a1 bearing Saras...Protoindoeuropean started among R1a1 bearing Saraswathians before 12000 years before present era as the first language and spread to nomadic groups residing in the areas of the Central Asia and spread even to Americas at present.But real patent rights and cord of secrecy for than remains with the Saraswathians and their progeny around Brahmawartha in present HaryanaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160507912251045331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-67006438617180343862016-07-22T10:36:50.982-07:002016-07-22T10:36:50.982-07:00As Saraswathi was the first civilization and as it...As Saraswathi was the first civilization and as it spread to the Central Asia people lived adjascent areas adopted there language and culture as a way to become civilized.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160507912251045331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-86771678029550872612016-07-19T04:55:19.854-07:002016-07-19T04:55:19.854-07:00You're not making any sense.
Europeans are a ...You're not making any sense.<br /><br />Europeans are a mixture of European Hunter-Gatherers, Caucasus Hunter-Gatherers and Near Eastern farmers. European Hunter-Gatherers carried Y-DNA R1a and R1b.<br /><br />There was no migration from India to Europe during the Neolithic or Bronze Age. Such ideas are pseudo-scientific nonsense.<br /><br />It doesn't matter if there's genetic Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-71659136466756988452016-07-19T04:35:55.245-07:002016-07-19T04:35:55.245-07:00Results of ancient Indian DNA of Saraswathi is th...Results of ancient Indian DNA of Saraswathi is the same as that of majority people in Haryana state in India as Saraswathi is the oldest civilization in the world as of today Sanscrut and allied Prakruts like reconstructed Proto London Europeans have spread to Europe through Elite groups migrated from Saraswathi with modern technology into a hunter gather society as it happened in Hurrian Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160507912251045331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-43070819916869207302016-07-19T01:29:26.317-07:002016-07-19T01:29:26.317-07:00@udaya udaya ranasinghe seneviratne
You appear to...@udaya udaya ranasinghe seneviratne<br /><br />You appear to be suffering from mental illness, so yes, if at all possible, try and rehabilitate.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-71825049495792500812016-07-18T23:59:39.499-07:002016-07-18T23:59:39.499-07:00Rakhigarhi DNA clues are out.Oficial results will ...Rakhigarhi DNA clues are out.Oficial results will come in next Nature Magazine.What we have to do now is rehabilitate.It seems no archeogeneticist involved in this thread beforehand.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160507912251045331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-8892888762006211722016-07-18T07:48:59.307-07:002016-07-18T07:48:59.307-07:00Please quit trolling.
We already know the ancient...Please quit trolling.<br /><br />We already know the ancient populations that fused together to create modern Europeans, and none of them were from India, or even anywhere nearby.<br /><br />On the other hand it's clear that South Asians have admixture from Bronze Age Eastern Europe.<br /><br />So there's really not much left to debate.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-78300026606099221492016-07-18T06:56:01.432-07:002016-07-18T06:56:01.432-07:00For example if it is proven same genetic structure...For example if it is proven same genetic structure remains in Haryana as it was 10 000 years ago(origin of Bhirrana is of that scale)have you to modify your theory as origin of Europeans come through Shortugai?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160507912251045331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-36814879834817401742016-07-18T03:17:42.639-07:002016-07-18T03:17:42.639-07:00@ udaya udaya ranasinghe seneviratne
"Rak...@ udaya udaya ranasinghe seneviratne <br /> <br />"Rakhigarhi, or Rakhi Garhi (Rakhi Shahpur + Rakhi Khas), is a village in Hisar District in the state of Haryana in India, situated 150 kilometers to the northwest of Delhi. It is the site of a Pre-Indus Valley Civilisation settlement dating to as early as 4600 BCE".<br /><br />And which haplogroups do you think they will find for Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-18084655431514633522016-07-18T02:57:42.297-07:002016-07-18T02:57:42.297-07:00I think we will have to close this thread as Decca...I think we will have to close this thread as Deccan College has already obtained DNA report for Rakhigarhi India and archeologist of the institute now say their next step is to correlate Saraswathi Civilization with Vedic culture with the help of Sanscrut scholars in the Deccan College.This makes your northern Asian and European DNA analysis and crude speculations useless.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17160507912251045331noreply@blogger.com