tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post8688939185432974927..comments2024-03-18T18:30:48.719-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: Bronze Age dope dealersDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-90516202285870877292017-02-22T07:22:17.427-08:002017-02-22T07:22:17.427-08:00@ ser nam
If you can't comprehend the connect...@ ser nam<br /><br />If you can't comprehend the connections made throughout the iron-age and the middle-age you better ask for clearification - rather than rant to demonstrate your arrogance.<br /><br />Otherwise you gain nothing but feeding your own ignorance. <br />batmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-87680740135275184432017-02-22T04:17:52.165-08:002017-02-22T04:17:52.165-08:00"The East-Roman empire were active until Kons..."The East-Roman empire were active until Konstantinopel was conquered by the muslim Ottomans in 1453."<br /><br />Well aware caped crusader. <br /><br />"The West-Roman empire are still running, as the Holy Roman Empire, commonly known as The Vatican." <br /><br />And you got that from David Icke?<br /><br />I'll just assume you have your own private definition of iron ageAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05000112732712350375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-5336165291025038102017-02-22T04:03:44.454-08:002017-02-22T04:03:44.454-08:00@ ser nam
"I think your timeline is a bit of...@ ser nam<br /><br />"I think your timeline is a bit off there. Roman empires were neither in Fenno Scandia nor Russia in the iron age."<br /><br />The East-Roman empire were active until Konstantinopel was conquered by the muslim Ottomans in 1453. The West-Roman empire are still running, as the Holy Roman Empire, commonly known as The Vatican.<br /><br />Better get your timelines batmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-74055646474121589442017-02-22T03:34:16.186-08:002017-02-22T03:34:16.186-08:00Germanic peoples definitely picked up a religous/m...Germanic peoples definitely picked up a religous/mystical connection to Amanita mushrooms a long time ago, and it continues to the present day. You can find Fly Agaric mushrooms for sale next to mistletoe and pine branches at just about any German open air market late in the fall.<br /><br />But, it is also found among Uralic groups, and many others across North and North-East Asia. So, I doubt aKarl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-9415918759933848702017-02-22T02:10:52.054-08:002017-02-22T02:10:52.054-08:00Rigvedic poets use the same poetic metaphors and a...Rigvedic poets use the same poetic metaphors and allegories as Greek poets and philosophers. Forget mystic, mushroom BS. It is not IE.EastPolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02385485387444006342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-35793398276380640432017-02-22T00:48:43.396-08:002017-02-22T00:48:43.396-08:00There are certainly to many Mushrooms accompanied ...There are certainly to many Mushrooms accompanied by Faeries,Elves etc tales within Indo-European to not see the connection.Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-27834175060706017072017-02-22T00:48:18.505-08:002017-02-22T00:48:18.505-08:00@Alberto
"An analysis was done on Cannabis f...@Alberto<br /><br />"An analysis was done on Cannabis found on a 2700 y.o. burial in Xinjiang (NW China) and it was consistent with it being a psychoactive plant"<br /><br />Did you actually look at the evidence? Sure it was consistent with it being psychoactive, but also with it NOT being psychoactive. Nothing conclusive. They are guessing because of context.<br /><br />As an example, Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-82417563855908770852017-02-22T00:39:08.824-08:002017-02-22T00:39:08.824-08:00I think the Indo-Europeans thing was the Mushrooms...I think the Indo-Europeans thing was the Mushrooms. Hemp was good for clothing and roping.But there are certainly many other semi-poisonous plants in Europe that could have been used to reach a translike state.Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-16730116805221196462017-02-21T21:31:45.572-08:002017-02-21T21:31:45.572-08:00@Strandloper
"Traditional landraces from Ind...@Strandloper<br /><br />"Traditional landraces from India, south east Asia and Africa can be extremely psychoactive and introspective, more so than anything you can find in a modern dispensary." <br /><br />That is exactly what I said. South and South-East Asia have always had medicinal Cannabis. But not in the Indo-European homeland or Europe, or Central Asia until quite recently.Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-58004023486427917792017-02-21T21:18:52.370-08:002017-02-21T21:18:52.370-08:00"from the Early Mesolithic to the Late Iron A..."from the Early Mesolithic to the Late Iron Age, when the East- and West-Roman empires, respectively, conquered Russia and Fenno-Scandia" <br /><br />I think your timeline is a bit off there. Roman empires were neither in Fenno Scandia nor Russia in the iron age.<br /><br />"Since then the new masters of the northern countries managed to force their superstition and teocratic Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05000112732712350375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-8198188212442921922017-02-21T16:22:04.972-08:002017-02-21T16:22:04.972-08:00Concerning the old water-ways of inland Europe, th...Concerning the old water-ways of inland Europe, the Volga-route used to be the most important one, carrying all the travel, trade and cultural inter-change that kept Northern Europe connected with Asia.<br /><br />Today it's known that already the mesolithic Europeans had established organized net-works along the rivers of Northern Europe and Fenno-Scandia, conecting coasts and inlands, from batmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-37985767392610133122017-02-21T16:21:43.015-08:002017-02-21T16:21:43.015-08:00Bear from barley, dried hemp and ditto mushrooms s...Bear from barley, dried hemp and ditto mushrooms seem to be the oldest drugs known, with roots back in the mesolithic. During the neolithic both beer and weed was used in social occassions. The chillum-pipes portrayed on Sumerian stelae is pretty close to ones still in use from the Middle East to India. Asia. <br /><br />No need to mystify or stigmatize any of it by mere speculations, such as &batmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00810638398479713844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-57716711918784096632017-02-21T15:22:20.519-08:002017-02-21T15:22:20.519-08:00highly psychoactive cannabis has been around for a...highly psychoactive cannabis has been around for a very long time.<br />good Indian hash is not an new invention.<br /><br />The psychoactive strength of a cannabis plant is thought to come from an entourage effect of terpenes and cannabinoids. <br /><br />having high THC alone does not indicate the "strength" of the plant.<br /><br />Traditional landraces from India, south east Asia Strandloperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09223332942494057223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-22072039512725699602017-02-21T12:26:38.494-08:002017-02-21T12:26:38.494-08:00@George Daly
People forget that high thc strains ...@George Daly<br /><br /><em>People forget that high thc strains are a late 20th, early 21st century phenomenon.</em><br /><br />This depends on what you call "high". Usually it's more or less about the CBD to THC ratio, since CBD counteracts the (psycho-)activity of THC. An analysis was done on Cannabis found on a 2700 y.o. burial in Xinjiang (NW China) and it was consistent with itAlbertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10924243765876609481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-51665519237870217292017-02-21T12:11:27.483-08:002017-02-21T12:11:27.483-08:00I cannot finish my explanations because for some r...I cannot finish my explanations because for some reason my posts are cut. Have I exceeded a limit?EastPolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02385485387444006342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-88226684866491289272017-02-21T12:05:10.774-08:002017-02-21T12:05:10.774-08:00Ephedra makes more sense as Soma. But who knows?Ephedra makes more sense as Soma. But who knows?Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-21862994801487468042017-02-21T11:16:48.958-08:002017-02-21T11:16:48.958-08:00@capra internetensis
“Mead yes, but hops as soma? ...@capra internetensis<br />“Mead yes, but hops as soma? Get out of here”.<br /><br />Hops were used for mead or beer production in Central-Eastern Europe since immemorial times. Hops have an antibiotic effect that favours the activity of yeast over less desirable microorganisms The acidity of hops is a preservative.<br /><br />Hop/humle/chomel/chmiel was a very important ingredient of mead and EastPolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02385485387444006342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-53076801993305921692017-02-21T10:49:10.464-08:002017-02-21T10:49:10.464-08:00People forget that high thc strains are a late 20t...People forget that high thc strains are a late 20th, early 21st century phenomenon. That ditchweed you smoked in high school only clocks in at 2 or 3 percent thc compared to upwards of 30 percent that modern growers can pull. Thus the form most consumed was likely a concentrate. Not saying this is necessarily the case for the current discussion, but landraces still produce resin glands, and Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10696304897994889599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-32785534809485600692017-02-21T10:04:59.705-08:002017-02-21T10:04:59.705-08:00@eastpole
Mead yes, but hops as soma? Get out of ...@eastpole<br /><br />Mead yes, but hops as soma? Get out of here.capra internetensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15951755327460295070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-48716912540236073102017-02-21T05:36:35.668-08:002017-02-21T05:36:35.668-08:00"Not sure people would get buried with a plan..."Not sure people would get buried with a plant unless it had some special powers"<br /><br />Actually, plants used for food and clothing are the most commonly found thing in ancient human burials besides dead humans.<br /><br />In most cases and places, they have decayed beyond recognition or are overlooked, but Egyptian tombs were clearly stocked with images and physical examples of Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-53358490256544289732017-02-21T05:22:38.771-08:002017-02-21T05:22:38.771-08:00In the Altai region, very likely to have been both...In the Altai region, very likely to have been both present and used. But further North and West, it is extremely unlikely. Maybe used if imported for ceremonies. Unlikely to have been smoked, more likely added to a hot drink, like milk (Bhang).<br /><br />But there is no way it was actually grown or produced in large amounts near Europe or the Steppe.<br /><br />There are very extensive landrace Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-36447460745053888912017-02-21T04:45:14.506-08:002017-02-21T04:45:14.506-08:00"They was smokin it IMO."
Maybe, and/or..."They was smokin it IMO."<br /><br />Maybe, and/or possibly eating itAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05000112732712350375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-54036549382785374932017-02-21T03:26:34.039-08:002017-02-21T03:26:34.039-08:00A marked increase in cannabis achene records from ...<em>A marked increase in cannabis achene records from East Asia between ca. 5,000 and 4,000 cal bp might be associated with the establishment of a trans-Eurasian exchange/migration network through the steppe zone</em><br /><br />A connection between East Asia and the steppe zone would only have happened after 4000 cal bp. Before that, the exchange network existed south of the steppe, with S-C Albertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10924243765876609481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-68942068497300504362017-02-21T03:14:36.665-08:002017-02-21T03:14:36.665-08:00Quote...
Furthermore, the fragmented infructescen...Quote...<br /><br /><i>Furthermore, the fragmented infructescences of Cannabis discovered in other tombs of the Jiayi cemetery, together with similar Cannabis remains recovered from coeval tombs in the ancient Turpan cemetery along with those found in the Altai Mountains region, reveal that <b>Cannabis was used by the local Central Eurasian people for ritual and/or medicinal purposes</b> in the Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-2230795310192963292017-02-21T03:11:05.037-08:002017-02-21T03:11:05.037-08:00Not sure people would get buried with a plant unle...Not sure people would get buried with a plant unless it had some special powers, above being really good for making rope or pants.<br /><br />http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2016/10/rip-with-cannabis.htmlDavidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.com