tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post192758846718976724..comments2024-03-28T23:21:04.175-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: Early Neolithic genomes from the eastern Fertile Crescent (Broushaki et al. 2016)Davidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger125125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-31971239706021859592016-08-07T09:13:23.819-07:002016-08-07T09:13:23.819-07:00Strike my last question as I just saw the spreadsh...Strike my last question as I just saw the spreadsheet which is somehow not in excel. Looks like Anatolian Chalcolithic already has that range, and lots of other groups have much above that range, though it does seem that the highest ranging modern populations are similar to those listed in this paper as having more similarity to WC1. There are also some relatively high "Iran Neolithic"MomOfZohahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09787348878657753214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-265240750409557112016-08-06T22:30:02.511-07:002016-08-06T22:30:02.511-07:00Is there a reason why Kurdish group are not mentio...Is there a reason why Kurdish group are not mentioned at all in this work, regarding similarity or lack thereof with WC1? Lots of specific groups are mentioned on page 501, including not just general "Iran (Fars)" and Afghan, but also specific subgroups like Balochi and Brahui. Given that Kurds are the main Iranic"-speaking (and once formerly Zoroastrian) peoples west of Iran, MomOfZohahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09787348878657753214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-81130454275694744862016-07-25T18:44:51.690-07:002016-07-25T18:44:51.690-07:00Any further information coming through?Any further information coming through?Aniasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16835147197875187118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-63925119418884273692016-07-22T09:44:25.606-07:002016-07-22T09:44:25.606-07:00Would be great if it's true that the Rakhigarh...Would be great if it's true that the Rakhigarhi samples are coming out soon. Speculations have been going on for too long about South Asia. Let's get some reality at last.<br /><br />What about these Iranian samples? They must have been available for a while if others were testing them. It would be interesting to see that Iron Age sample carrying R1b. Or the high coverage Zagros sample.Albertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10924243765876609481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-46571159436988128302016-07-21T13:58:03.857-07:002016-07-21T13:58:03.857-07:00Hummm you dont happen to know where those unpublis...<i>Hummm you dont happen to know where those unpublished samples are from?</i><br /><br />Out of his ass.<br /><br /><i>Rakhigarhi DNA clues are out. Oficial results will come in next Nature Magazine. What we have to do now is rehabilitate. It seems no archeogeneticist involved in this thread beforehand.</i><br /><br />The new Nature magazine came out today. Nothing about India.<br /><br />http:/Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-5076420821748186642016-07-21T13:47:40.297-07:002016-07-21T13:47:40.297-07:00@ aniasi
It was announced here:
udaya udaya ranasi...@ aniasi<br />It was announced here:<br />udaya udaya ranasinghe seneviratne has left a new comment on the post "The genetic structure of the world's first farmers...": <br />Rakhigarhi DNA clues are out. Oficial results will come in next Nature Magazine. What we have to do now is rehabilitate. It seems no archeogeneticist involved in this thread beforehand. <br /><br />Hope to see Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-16891247864101326392016-07-21T12:06:18.465-07:002016-07-21T12:06:18.465-07:00@Gioiello
"Anyway it seems that aDNA from In...@Gioiello<br /><br />"Anyway it seems that aDNA from India is ready to publish. Thus let's wait and all will be clear."<br /><br />What!? What!? What!? Really!?<br /><br />I am very happy to hear this. Do you know where this is reported?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-71989528321585840272016-07-21T08:42:42.723-07:002016-07-21T08:42:42.723-07:00@Nirjhar,
Hummm you dont happen to know where thos...@Nirjhar,<br />Hummm you dont happen to know where those unpublished samples are from? :)Olympus Monshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640679631703214884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-29278690348364283362016-07-21T07:34:29.622-07:002016-07-21T07:34:29.622-07:00You're just confused as usual
How? by notifyin...<i>You're just confused as usual</i><br />How? by notifying you guys, that a geneticist recently spoke something, that indicates there are some unpublished samples, which backs his suggestion regarding a certain y-snp's history?.Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-41023225120292350722016-07-21T07:26:21.806-07:002016-07-21T07:26:21.806-07:00You're just confused as usual.You're just confused as usual.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-87926815949685026862016-07-21T06:52:13.381-07:002016-07-21T06:52:13.381-07:00I guess Y-DNA R1b is a related topic here . So, I ...I guess Y-DNA R1b is a related topic here . So, I just heard from a certain researcher friend of mine , that a certain geneticist from Harvard gave a speech recently and the speaker suggests R1b didn't spread from the Steppes!. <br /><br />I think quite a few here know of what I'm talking about . Sorry can't be more specific :( .Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-69679600599216208302016-07-21T06:01:28.393-07:002016-07-21T06:01:28.393-07:00@ Davidski
"I honestly couldn't give two...@ Davidski <br />"I honestly couldn't give two figs about R1b.<br />Tell us what he said about R1a. Oh wait, R1a did spread from the steppes. Haha." <br /><br />Probably secondly, and linked with Indo-European satem languages, but we couldn't understand why the oldest subclades of R1a-M420* are in Western-Central Europe and Middle East if it spread from the steppes. I am afraid Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-15297295553404797492016-07-20T00:58:33.038-07:002016-07-20T00:58:33.038-07:00@ Aram
Of course P38, found in that place and in ...@ Aram<br /><br />Of course P38, found in that place and in that age, may be thought belonging to Medians, and of course also Medians may have come from South Russia but 1 thousands years before as yous say and have had many vicissitudes we don't know, also having inhabited in the Caucasus for so long...Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-21268098320380375032016-07-20T00:52:24.563-07:002016-07-20T00:52:24.563-07:00But off course if the basal SNPs of L584 are in th...But off course if the basal SNPs of L584 are in that Russian noble person then off course it means that he came from Steppe but 1000 years earlier. Not in Iron Age.!Aramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717857095182763668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-61292052683062825282016-07-20T00:49:34.870-07:002016-07-20T00:49:34.870-07:00Guys
F38 autosomaly doesn't look Cimmerian or...Guys <br />F38 autosomaly doesn't look Cimmerian or any recent Steppe invador. Although he has some Steppe affinities.<br />He is most probably from North East Anatolia. <br /><br /><br />This Hasanlu F38 can be remnant of IA Mushki expansion. The absence of strong Levantine affinities means he was not from Armenia MLBA and certainly not places close to Levant. Most probably from North East Aramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717857095182763668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-58291316687252110722016-07-19T18:21:36.820-07:002016-07-19T18:21:36.820-07:00@karl
I understand pretty well just Karl, just ext...@karl<br />I understand pretty well just Karl, just extrapolating a little, keeping folks on the straight and narrow. According to the mainstream, vedics spent at least 600 years composing verses near IVC regions practicing "elite dominance" and transferring language. <br /><br />@gioello<br />please read the wiki entry you posted. they are a unknown people of uncertain language and postneohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09364121752386612217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-41537362707033650742016-07-19T14:02:27.826-07:002016-07-19T14:02:27.826-07:00@postneo
"you are saying is that they picked...@postneo<br /><br />"you are saying is that they picked up some paltry loans from unknown regions but had special loan filters on when they traversed IVC areas"<br /><br />That is not at all what I have ever said. It is as if you don't understand half of the words that people write.Karl_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388217053237956318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-83487415561928095762016-07-19T13:51:02.216-07:002016-07-19T13:51:02.216-07:00@ postneo
This knowledge is common here, it is eno...@ postneo<br />This knowledge is common here, it is enough you read Wikipedia:<br />"The Cimmerians (also Kimmerians, Greek Κιμμέριοι Kimmerioi) are an ancient people, first mentioned in the late 8th century BC in Assyrian records.<br />Likely originating in the Pontic steppe and invading by means of the Caucasus, they probably assaulted Urartu in c. 714 BC. They were defeated by Assyrian Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-45017830666492647442016-07-19T13:03:29.545-07:002016-07-19T13:03:29.545-07:00@karlk
"But you are assuming that the loans ...@karlk<br /><br />"But you are assuming that the loans in the Rig Veda are from the IVC.<br />You have no way of knowing if this is true. These people passed through a lot of territory in a short amount of time, and the loans could have come from many different places."<br /><br />"I did not ever mean to imply that anyone ever DID pick up a loan. <br />Only that IF they did, then postneohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09364121752386612217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-27251457723729262016-07-19T09:10:47.110-07:002016-07-19T09:10:47.110-07:00If any bud is interested -
http://www.nature.com/a...If any bud is interested -<br />http://www.nature.com/articles/srep29890Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-90499334762431974522016-07-19T05:47:48.454-07:002016-07-19T05:47:48.454-07:00A new paper on the Y dna N
Behind pay wall
http://...A new paper on the Y dna N<br />Behind pay wall<br />http://www.cell.com/ajhg/abstract/S0002-9297(16)30160-4Aramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05717857095182763668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-9712286849481291812016-07-19T05:25:49.442-07:002016-07-19T05:25:49.442-07:00Atriðr ,
You know this research?.
http://booksan...Atriðr ,<br /><br />You know this research?.<br /><br />http://booksandjournals.brillonline.com/content/journals/10.1163/24055069-00102003Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-56641291394377411462016-07-19T04:48:01.378-07:002016-07-19T04:48:01.378-07:00Atriðr ,
I like it . You gave a straightforward a...Atriðr ,<br /><br />I like it . You gave a straightforward answer! :) . I agree with you. <br /><br />Gioiello ,<br /><br />For gods sake , stop it! . We get it , you have a point regarding SNP's . But the let more aDNA come, so we can get to a finer resolution .Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-82014451919562055082016-07-19T01:17:20.242-07:002016-07-19T01:17:20.242-07:00As someone said that I don't understand anythi...As someone said that I don't understand anything about genetics, and as from many years (but later than 1998) I am saying that Jews of to-day have a little to do with old Jews, and as, when a Jew matches an Iberian, Jews say that the Iberian is a Crypto-Jew and not the other way around as I am supporting from so long, I'd want to complete my post about P38:<br />1) the oldest haplotype Gioiellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578860964923773647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-29345525063173573242016-07-18T22:29:15.806-07:002016-07-18T22:29:15.806-07:00@Nirjhar007
It's not that inconclusive at all....@Nirjhar007<br />It's not that inconclusive at all. He was SC Asian/Aryan/Bactrian. Zoroastrianism moved into Persia, where his doctrines had a much larger influence. <br /><br />But again, it's dangerous to think in terms of modern connotations of "Persian" or "SC Asian."<br /><br />Better to think in terms of Airyanem Vaejah in this respect.Atriðrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13083384836707338698noreply@blogger.com