tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post3031757452510527886..comments2024-03-28T17:16:03.042-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: SMBE 2015 abstractsDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-22738930378037982662015-05-30T20:38:21.180-07:002015-05-30T20:38:21.180-07:00@Grey,
Whatever, I don't think there's mu...@Grey,<br /><br />Whatever, I don't think there's much to discuss here. I guess that's possible, just it must have happened after the Neolithic. It could just be Tacitus is unreliable. Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-44840271322416891782015-05-30T16:25:10.655-07:002015-05-30T16:25:10.655-07:00Krefter
"I've seen plenty British-descen...Krefter<br /><br />"I've seen plenty British-descended people who look Spanish"<br /><br />That's my point. Romans saw *different* looking people among the native tribes already when they arrived: northern looking in some parts and Mediterranean looking in other parts which makes me think it happened earlier.<br /><br />(The Romans may have added to it.)<br />Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398462488549380796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-35239300220010192002015-05-28T14:50:47.493-07:002015-05-28T14:50:47.493-07:00@Grey,
"The Romans described different physic...@Grey,<br />"The Romans described different physical looks among the Celtic tribes so I think it happened before they arrived with Atlantic Megalith and Bell Beaker (or even Pheonicians maybe)"<br /><br />During the Neolithic Iberia and Britain were basically the same. What makes modern Iberians differnt from British is more Neolithic blood, but back then that difference didn't Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-80954183337818914202015-05-28T13:00:15.700-07:002015-05-28T13:00:15.700-07:00@Krefter
The Romans described different physical ...@Krefter<br /><br />The Romans described different physical looks among the Celtic tribes so I think it happened before they arrived with Atlantic Megalith and Bell Beaker (or even Pheonicians maybe). The connection with Iberia and beyond due to tin and copper.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_in_Cornwall_and_Devon#Stone_Age_and_early_Bronze_Age<br />Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398462488549380796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-6669202587431592962015-05-28T10:58:31.181-07:002015-05-28T10:58:31.181-07:00@Arch,
I think it means the Celts of Britain cou...@Arch, <br /><br />I think it means the Celts of Britain could have some type of genealogical connection to South Europeans(which ones?).<br /><br />"By analyzing the distribution of shared rare variants across ancient and modern individuals, we find that samples from the Anglo-Saxon period are relatively more closely related to central northern Europe, while earlier samples and contemporaryKrefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-87694206433699717852015-05-28T10:25:11.533-07:002015-05-28T10:25:11.533-07:00The British paper looks very interesting. Does thi...The British paper looks very interesting. Does this mean the Celtic speakers of Britian were more Mediterranean-like?Arch Hadeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00679577049261430513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-44732860950585458252015-05-25T22:38:01.106-07:002015-05-25T22:38:01.106-07:00"Why not plain old E?"
Quite possible..."Why not plain old E?" <br /><br />Quite possible. I didn't think of that. terrythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327062321100035888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-64158765351734811992015-05-25T21:39:58.320-07:002015-05-25T21:39:58.320-07:00@Vincent
Why not plain old E? In Arunkumar's ...@Vincent<br /><br />Why not plain old E? In Arunkumar's study of 1680 men from Tamil Nadu, 5 had E, none had D.capra internetensishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15951755327460295070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-38844024400149162672015-05-25T20:46:12.513-07:002015-05-25T20:46:12.513-07:00"Cordaux et al. (2004) reported that 2 out of..."Cordaux et al. (2004) reported that 2 out of 30 Koragas (a tribal group in South India) have DE (neither D nor E tested). It could very well be D*, D2 - M226.2 or, why not, DE*". <br /><br />Thanks for the link but all I see is two YAP positives were found. Not necessarily pre-D. Could be the same as Andaman Island D*. To me DE is unlikely. And the haplotype could well have come terrythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327062321100035888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-22307424013197887482015-05-25T06:14:17.188-07:002015-05-25T06:14:17.188-07:00I've only shown terryt that DE/pre-D is presen...I've only shown terryt that DE/pre-D is present in South Asia(xTibeto-Burmans). I'm certainly not claiming that its real frequency is 7% as in this study (it could be though, given their population size of ~17.000). Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13096774136070274675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-89709656929190459462015-05-25T05:33:30.712-07:002015-05-25T05:33:30.712-07:00Y-chromosome studies from as far back as 2004 are ...Y-chromosome studies from as far back as 2004 are unreliable unless you're just wanting frequencies of the most common haplogroups.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-61659872542650825242015-05-25T05:24:01.779-07:002015-05-25T05:24:01.779-07:00@terryt
"And their made Y-DNA, D, is not pre...@terryt<br /><br />"And their made Y-DNA, D, is not present in South Asia apart from the in relatively recently arrived Tibeto-Burman speakers."<br /><br />False. Cordaux et al. (2004) reported that 2 out of 30 Koragas (a tribal group in South India) have DE (neither D nor E tested). It could very well be D*, D2 - M226.2 or, why not, DE*.<br /><br />http://hygienecentral.org.uk/pdf/Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13096774136070274675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-48371482642300654242015-05-25T00:42:08.831-07:002015-05-25T00:42:08.831-07:00You can calculate this by cross checking your resu...You can calculate this by cross checking your results with SSA scores from calculators that don't have any north/northeast/northwest African clusters.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-550621861173587872015-05-24T22:38:41.230-07:002015-05-24T22:38:41.230-07:00Out of topic: what is the percentage of ssa in nor...Out of topic: what is the percentage of ssa in northwest african and east african components in eurogene calculators? what about the north african in gedmatch? is it the same thing as northwest african?Ramberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18057789585601848229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-35409558081220188422015-05-24T19:46:25.890-07:002015-05-24T19:46:25.890-07:00"No island South East Asian populations in th..."No island South East Asian populations in their analysis, in the sense of Malays or Indonesians or the Philippines, really (and little mainland South East Asia)". <br /><br />Thanks for all that information Matt. Regarding the above comment I would guess that SE Asian populations would stand somewhere between Oceanian and East Asian populations as they appear to be the product of a terrythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327062321100035888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-40537091305208859672015-05-24T15:00:37.825-07:002015-05-24T15:00:37.825-07:00>and highlighted significantly higher amounts o...>and highlighted significantly higher amounts of Neanderthal gene flows in Island South East Asian and Oceanian populations.<br /><br />Could it be that they mistaking Denisovan genes for Neanderthal?rozenblatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06133713105187428743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-4196265814604606392015-05-24T02:06:01.341-07:002015-05-24T02:06:01.341-07:00Re: Pagani, and Denisovan admixture, the estimate ...Re: Pagani, and Denisovan admixture, the estimate is 4-6% of an Oceanian group's ancestry is from the Denisovan clade, so if they are about 20% "First Asian" and all the Denisovan came through "First Asian" then "First Asian" would end up around 25% Denisovan overall. <br /><br />Qin and Stoneking's preprint here - http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/04/03/Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517454865405705885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-29649005851831765782015-05-23T16:56:59.745-07:002015-05-23T16:56:59.745-07:00This one is of most interest to me: "450 dive...This one is of most interest to me: "450 diverse high coverage whole genome sequences reveal ancient population admixture in modern human populations". <br /><br />Quote from the abstract: <br /><br />"highlighted significantly higher amounts of Neanderthal gene flows in Island South East Asian and Oceanian populations". <br /><br />That should put the cat amongst the terrythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327062321100035888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-65037000803575552262015-05-23T13:12:48.030-07:002015-05-23T13:12:48.030-07:00Tracing Genetic History of Populations in Myanmar ...<br /><i>Tracing Genetic History of Populations in Myanmar - Peng et al - According to the southern coastal route hypothesis, Myanmar is the entrance from South Asia to Southeast and East Asia. Nowadays, Myanmar is the homeland for various ethnic groups. All make it as a crucial region to study human evolutionary history. Herein, we genotyped ~900,000 genomewide SNPs in 175 unrelated individuals Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517454865405705885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-23958501530023903692015-05-23T13:12:09.249-07:002015-05-23T13:12:09.249-07:00Just some titles:
Inferring population structure ...Just some titles:<br /><br /><i>Inferring population structure across space and time - Bradburd, Ralph and Coop - We develop a method toestimate the assignments of the ancestry proportions for each individual, as well as the parameters that govern the spatiotemporal decay of relatedness in each population....We demonstrate the utility of this approach using a combination of ancient and modern Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517454865405705885noreply@blogger.com