tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post3938643418479721420..comments2024-03-19T04:18:48.805-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: Fascinating stuffDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger217125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-56228409067054366762021-10-14T02:43:37.226-07:002021-10-14T02:43:37.226-07:00Keywords of importance : 5 to 10 % , R1a-Z93, Arya...Keywords of importance : 5 to 10 % , R1a-Z93, Aryan,not scythian. <br /><br />Randomly choose 4 out of 260 and 3 out of 4 belonged to same type.<br /><br />Target: Bulgarian<br />Distance: 1.3173% / 0.01317294<br />44.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad<br />29.6 ITA_Rome_Imperial<br />21.6 BGR_IA<br /><b>4.4 BGR_MLBA</b><br /><br />Target: Bulgarian<br />Distance: 1.1436% / 0.01143627<br />46.2 HUN_Avar_Szolad<brdiscreetmaverickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01688785056167172484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-67840158323181827012020-09-08T01:47:22.018-07:002020-09-08T01:47:22.018-07:00@Rob
It's a shame that the Buran Kaya 3 paper...@Rob<br /><br />It's a shame that the Buran Kaya 3 paper considered |Z|=2 statistically relevant, but failed to mention that Muierii2 also showed affinity to Vestonice16 and Kostenki14 as per Fu et al. Muierii2 is of similar age as Buran Kaya.<br />epochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08369114970416550997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-25498454261012288562020-09-06T05:31:52.621-07:002020-09-06T05:31:52.621-07:00@ Epoch
''So Cioclovina and Muierii2 woul...@ Epoch<br /><br />''So Cioclovina and Muierii2 would be the samples to look at. They show relevant affinity to Vestonice16 when compared to KO1 in the D-stats of Fu et al, and Muierii2 also when compared to La Brana. No affection to GoyetQ116. The samples are low res, mind you. When you consider |Z| => 2 as relevant both samples show some affection to Vestonice16 and still not to Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-36870415258029418752020-09-06T02:28:20.789-07:002020-09-06T02:28:20.789-07:00Yes, I already know, sorry.Yes, I already know, sorry.ambronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238484037682022972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-87754661202521672372020-09-06T02:20:23.761-07:002020-09-06T02:20:23.761-07:00WEZ56 doesn't belong to Z284, so there's n...WEZ56 doesn't belong to Z284, so there's no point continuing the discussion related to this claim.<br /><br />Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-21498922738520273632020-09-06T01:37:31.489-07:002020-09-06T01:37:31.489-07:00@Rob
"No true Aurignacian in central Europe...@Rob <br /><br />"No true Aurignacian in central Europe site persists beyond 33,000 cal BP."<br /><br />So Cioclovina and Muierii2 would be the samples to look at. They show relevant affinity to Vestonice16 when compared to KO1 in the D-stats of Fu et al, and Muierii2 also when compared to La Brana. No affection to GoyetQ116. The samples are low res, mind you. When you consider |Z| =>epochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11461877318881408652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-44857858392135332572020-09-06T00:58:21.796-07:002020-09-06T00:58:21.796-07:00Samuel, mutation Z284 appears around 2700 BC and t...Samuel, mutation Z284 appears around 2700 BC and the Balto-Slavic drift appears around 2600 BC (sample N47). Given the margin of error in radiocarbon and molecular dating, we can assume with high probability that Z284 was originally Balto-Slavic. It is also logical as Z284 is a fraternal line of Z280 and M458 - typical Balto-Slavic mutations.ambronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238484037682022972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-28130605096215020802020-09-06T00:14:17.819-07:002020-09-06T00:14:17.819-07:00R1a Z284 is found in Scandinavian Battle Axe with ...R1a Z284 is found in Scandinavian Battle Axe with no Balto-Slavic drift. Its pretty much only found in Scandinavia today. Balto SLavic drift formed after R1a Z283. Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-21518726557131155212020-09-05T23:38:26.045-07:002020-09-05T23:38:26.045-07:00Arza, WEZ56 is supposedly Z284. With such a large ...Arza, WEZ56 is supposedly Z284. With such a large Balto-Slavic drift, the views that the entire Z283 was Balto-Slavic are confirmed.ambronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238484037682022972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-53972061298331812022020-09-05T02:02:14.181-07:002020-09-05T02:02:14.181-07:00Arza, I already know - this is the one most simila...Arza, I already know - this is the one most similar to the Balts.<br /><br />Mouthful, but it can be classified as Balto-Slavic.ambronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238484037682022972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-60225406268975673262020-09-04T19:55:39.442-07:002020-09-04T19:55:39.442-07:00@ Archi
Take your own advice and 'learn Read ...@ Archi<br /><br />Take your own advice and 'learn Read !" <br /><br /><br /><i>either share many cultural traits with the Gravettian, possibly relate to <b>mechanical admixture</b>, or represent altogether different traditions with “aurignacoid” elements (the Streletskian).</i><br /><br />No true Aurignacian in central Europe site persists beyond 33,000 cal BP. <br />Scholars otherwise Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-90749424555320231572020-09-04T19:12:21.820-07:002020-09-04T19:12:21.820-07:00Mokrin (Maros EBA, Serbia) Y-DNA:
MOK9B XX
MOK10B...Mokrin (Maros EBA, Serbia) Y-DNA:<br /><br />MOK9B XX<br />MOK10B XX<br />MOK12 XY <a href="https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y13331/" rel="nofollow">I-Y13331 (xY13339)</a><br />MOK13 XX<br />MOK14 XX<br />MOK15 XY <a href="https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L283/" rel="nofollow">J-L283 (xZ597)</a><br />MOK16A XX<br />MOK17A XX<br />MOK18A XY <a href="https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y13336/" rel="nofollow">Arzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10459843383682766479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-67534286276015728172020-09-04T12:00:36.997-07:002020-09-04T12:00:36.997-07:00@mzp1 and David
I had the following tests crap ou...@mzp1 and David<br /><br />I had the following tests crap out on me when trying to test possible admixture scenarios for Dinka:<br /><br />Source 1 Source 2 Target f_3 std. err Z SNPs<br />no data Ethiopia_4500BP_published.SG Anatolia_Epipaleolithic Dinka.DG 0 -1 0 -1 <br />no data Ethiopia_4500BP_published.SG Anatolia_N Dinka.DG 0 -1 0 -1 <br />no data Ethiopia_4500BP_published.SG Jordan_PPNB Cy Tolliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05797319144388428934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-36242993843919775802020-09-04T03:38:54.851-07:002020-09-04T03:38:54.851-07:00@Rob
"Again from Svoboda-
Stop cheating. It...@Rob <br />"Again from Svoboda-<br /><br />Stop cheating. It was not for nothing that you did not give the title of the article, because then everyone would immediately see that you cheated, you just deceive everyone directly, as always. And the article is called so <br />THE AURIGNACIAN AND AFTER: CHRONOLOGY, GEOGRAPHY AND CULTURAL TAXONOMY IN THE MIDDLE DANUBE REGION https://Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-51714342068373087742020-09-04T01:59:45.610-07:002020-09-04T01:59:45.610-07:00Arza, how does WEZ56 look autosomal?Arza, how does WEZ56 look autosomal?ambronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238484037682022972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-8057960432174207132020-09-04T01:32:52.029-07:002020-09-04T01:32:52.029-07:00@ambron
I don't think you could classify that...@ambron<br /><br />I don't think you could classify that sample as Slavic.Mouthfulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07375870373758007570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-80211752208814485492020-09-04T01:19:17.857-07:002020-09-04T01:19:17.857-07:00Arza, the Germans are probably ashamed of their Sl...Arza, the Germans are probably ashamed of their Slavic heritage.ambronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01238484037682022972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-77613136698388823612020-09-04T01:16:22.262-07:002020-09-04T01:16:22.262-07:00@ Archi
The text is simple for anyone to understa...@ Archi<br /><br />The text is simple for anyone to understand. You cant bluff your way out of this with your usual misdirection & irrelevancies<br /><br />Again from Svoboda -<br />'' Typologically, the groups of short endscrapers and burins predominate,<br />but their quantitative relationship is variable at the individual sites. Some of them are thick and polyhedric, thus recallingRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-69720300370668239382020-09-03T17:23:57.948-07:002020-09-03T17:23:57.948-07:00@Rob
You absolutely do not understand the texts ...@Rob <br /><br />You absolutely do not understand the texts you read. You don't even understand what you are writing yourself. You blame everyone for your shortcomings, which only you have but your interlocutors do not have. the inability to understand and learn is your characteristic. Talking to you is absolutely useless, you will misinterpret any text.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-21616731466558461632020-09-03T16:44:43.791-07:002020-09-03T16:44:43.791-07:00@ Archie
“ but now you cleverly changed the word...@ Archie <br /><br />“ but now you cleverly changed the words Epigravettian for Epiaurignacian”<br /><br />I haven’t changed anything . It’s your limitations which precludes your comprehension <br /><br />You are falling prey to not understanding the terminology, which can be confusing for the non acquainted (like yourself) <br />You need to read carefully. Eg Nerudova <br /><br />“ After the Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-61176536440182405652020-09-03T15:56:28.051-07:002020-09-03T15:56:28.051-07:00For f3 remember to set outgroupmode=YES, needed if...For f3 remember to set outgroupmode=YES, needed if the outgroup is a single individual.mzp1https://www.blogger.com/profile/14352478218345657952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-34248545334167751602020-09-03T13:57:27.479-07:002020-09-03T13:57:27.479-07:00Tollense sample WEZ56 is R1a-Z283(xM458, V92).
ht...Tollense sample WEZ56 is R1a-Z283(xM458, V92).<br /><br />https://pastebin.com/UGUQGYJW<br /><br />One more time R1a is deliberately (Yleaf <b>automatically</b> reports R1a1a~ R-CTS2891) removed from the official publication. WTF is going on?Arzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10459843383682766479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-55221207918401610622020-09-03T11:19:14.505-07:002020-09-03T11:19:14.505-07:00If R1b turn out to have migrated from Moravia to t...If R1b turn out to have migrated from Moravia to the Balkans then I wonder if there was some kind of link between Gravettian Pavlovian Ceramics and Epigravettian Croatian Ceramic art despite the 10 000 years gap between them ?Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-22395150174177159382020-09-03T01:56:29.902-07:002020-09-03T01:56:29.902-07:00@Rob
"Kozlowski’s dates are uncalibrated. Cal...@Rob<br />"Kozlowski’s dates are uncalibrated. Calibrated makes it >30,000 calBP"<br /><br />As always, you are cheating because you do not know anything, 23000 + -500 BP can never give >30,000 calBP.<br /><br />Compare<br />Palaeolithic Gravettian France La Rochette (saint Léon-sur-VézРёre) <b>27780-27400 cal BP (23260+110-100 BP</b>, GrA-54026) M<br />Palaeolithic Gravettian Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-53775064075836031542020-09-02T14:41:21.082-07:002020-09-02T14:41:21.082-07:00@Cy Tolliver
I don't think that in most cases...@Cy Tolliver<br /><br />I don't think that in most cases f3 stats will be skewed significantly by recent drift. So there might be some other issues with your f3 analysis.<br /><br />My point was that f3 stats are affected by recent drift, although not to the same extent as PCA or Admixture results.<br /><br />By the way, my view is that to get the most out of f3 stats you should post-process Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.com