tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post62576060111741114..comments2024-03-28T17:16:03.042-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: PCA projection bias in ancient DNA studiesDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-34950951096364521012014-06-03T13:35:21.420-07:002014-06-03T13:35:21.420-07:00You should read this. Among other things R1a Z93 h...You should read this. Among other things R1a Z93 has been confirmed in bronze age Mongolia, and is without a doubt of Indo Iranian origin. <br /><br />http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1872497314001161Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-17446436278992776302014-05-31T16:18:32.225-07:002014-05-31T16:18:32.225-07:00Calls for mtDNA SNPs of 17,000YBP Siberian AG2.
h...Calls for mtDNA SNPs of 17,000YBP Siberian AG2.<br /><br />http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/mt-snp-calls-for-afontova-gora-2/comment-page-1/#comment-402<br /><br />AG2 is a member of mtDNA R and could not be placed in every R subclade he was tested for notably west Eurasian R2′JT and nearly every RO subclade including H and HVO. It is really disappointing that he could not get calls for Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-84447786706946046522014-05-30T15:54:05.522-07:002014-05-30T15:54:05.522-07:00Y SNP calls for AG2.
http://genetiker.wordpress.c...Y SNP calls for AG2.<br /><br />http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014/05/28/y-snp-calls-for-afontova-gora-2/<br /><br />The results confirm that he had hg F, and probably P. He has the only P mutation he was tested for, P-L781/PF5875/YSC0000255. He is Q1a1-F1215+, but was not tested for anything in between P and Q1a1. AG2 is R1-P245/PF6117+ and R1a1a1-Page7+, but he was R-P224/PF6050-, R1-P286/Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-16910067198911274532014-05-30T15:44:20.376-07:002014-05-30T15:44:20.376-07:00Pigmentation SNPs of MA1 and AG2.
http://genetike...Pigmentation SNPs of MA1 and AG2.<br /><br />http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014/05/28/pigmentation-snp-genotypes-for-malta-1-and-afontova-gora-2/<br /><br />The results confirm that MA1 had dark eyes unlike Mesolithic and Neolithic European hunter gatherers. The results are constant with MA1 and AG2 having dark hair, but there are not enough SNPs to be for sure. <br /><br />AG2 had skin lightingKrefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-74931247142076752042014-05-25T18:53:02.506-07:002014-05-25T18:53:02.506-07:00Pigmentation of stone age Swedish hunter gatherers...Pigmentation of stone age Swedish hunter gatherers and farmers.<br /><br />http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/pigmentation-snp-genotypes-for-prehistoric-swedes/<br /><br />Spreadsheet of stone age European hunter gatherer's and farmer's genotypes in pigmentation SNPs of the 8-plex and Hirisplex system, and SNPs of blue eye haplotypes. <br /><br />https://docs.google.com/Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-26252799978569647482014-05-23T15:13:07.646-07:002014-05-23T15:13:07.646-07:00My favorite depiction of a human from the stone ag...My favorite depiction of a human from the stone age comes from the Gravettian people at the Dolni Vestonive site(has the oldest U5 samples), and is 26,000 years old.<br /><br />http://mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/headbrugar3.jpg<br /><br />Unlike most pre historic depictions of humans it's realistic, and not abstract, spiritual, Venus, mystical crap. <br /><br />It Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-85142205609849062052014-05-23T04:39:08.295-07:002014-05-23T04:39:08.295-07:00That kind of art is Neolithic. It's somewhat s...That kind of art is Neolithic. It's somewhat similar to what we find in North Africa in the same period (and later among Bushmen). <br /><br />In the European Paleolithic there are very few instances of human representation but there are some: Lespulges woman's head is a rare case of semi-realistic female representation, in the famous scene of the bison hunt of Lascaux a schematic man Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-44555744210449806002014-05-23T03:52:46.149-07:002014-05-23T03:52:46.149-07:00"Neolithic rock art, for Chaos sake!"
T..."Neolithic rock art, for Chaos sake!"<br /><br />That's disappointing. I knew there was a low chance that painting was Mesolithic, it was just too good to be true.<br /><br />I found that it dates to 4,000-2,000BC. Plus it may not be its original coloring. How stupid were pre historic people? How hard was it for them to simply paint themselves? How could there be so many known cave Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-7455430582241762502014-05-23T01:20:09.090-07:002014-05-23T01:20:09.090-07:00Neolithic rock art, for Chaos sake!Neolithic rock art, for Chaos sake!Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-16822685339468205792014-05-22T21:06:18.288-07:002014-05-22T21:06:18.288-07:00After searching for depictions of dark skinned peo...After searching for depictions of dark skinned people in stone age Europe(hunter gatherers of course), for just a few minutes, i hit the jackpot.<br /><br />Cave paintings from Iberia known as Levantine art, have depictions of men with dark brown or black hair, beards, long hair, and dark brown skin. <br /><br />http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Cogul_HBreuil.jpg/Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-69454570482184994772014-05-22T05:44:48.339-07:002014-05-22T05:44:48.339-07:00No wait, that bozo genetiker is probably legally i...No wait, that bozo genetiker is probably legally insane.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-73378080820970233982014-05-21T23:33:02.663-07:002014-05-21T23:33:02.663-07:00The files are stored here...
https://export.uppma...The files are stored here...<br /><br />https://export.uppmax.uu.se/b2013240/neolithic2Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-19971775194754136182014-05-21T18:16:56.270-07:002014-05-21T18:16:56.270-07:00How do you download the DNA in that link?How do you download the DNA in that link?Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-62997617415788151122014-05-21T18:03:06.108-07:002014-05-21T18:03:06.108-07:00"By the way, that genetiker guy appears to be..."By the way, that genetiker guy appears to be clinically insane."<br /><br />I have a problem with him giving big labels that are 100's of years old to define people, that are somewhat accurate but not established yet and are probably not pure branches of the human family. Plus he has minor white-raciest tendencies. I don't think he is insane, just he has some problems like Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-87681288614543710662014-05-21T17:43:38.985-07:002014-05-21T17:43:38.985-07:00By the way, that genetiker guy appears to be clini...By the way, that genetiker guy appears to be clinically insane.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-4943313588405379262014-05-21T17:32:29.783-07:002014-05-21T17:32:29.783-07:00Indeed, they're now available here...
http://...Indeed, they're now available here...<br /><br />http://www.ebc.uu.se/Jakobsson/data/SkoglundEtAlData2014/<br /><br />I'll download them next week.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-37606180471998259242014-05-21T17:04:06.871-07:002014-05-21T17:04:06.871-07:00Gok4 was a farmer, my bad.Gok4 was a farmer, my bad.Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-66993031493722491992014-05-21T17:02:40.993-07:002014-05-21T17:02:40.993-07:00I know my list is kind of sloopy, but it does show...I know my list is kind of sloopy, but it does show that there was some noticeable Y DNA diversity in stone age European hunter gatherers. 11/11 have BT, 9/10 have F, 7/9 have hg I, 1/8 have C1a2-V20, 5/7 have I2a, 4/7 have I2a1, 1/9 have I2a2, 1/10 have I2a2a1, 3/9 have I2a1b(most likely pre-I2a1b). 10 have been tested and are negative for at least one I1 defining mutations(there are 25) or were Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-65249974097258172352014-05-21T17:02:18.702-07:002014-05-21T17:02:18.702-07:00Here are likely Y DNA haplogroups of all the confi...Here are likely Y DNA haplogroups of all the confirmed males from Skoglund 2014.<br /><br /><br />This is my source for the Y SNP calls.<br /><br /><br />http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014/05/11/y-snp-calls-for-prehistoric-swedes/<br /><br />I only listed positives and negatives for the samples from Skoglund 2014, if I thought they were significant. <br /><br /><br />Ajv59, hunter gatherer PWC Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-18484724332017355512014-05-21T13:44:11.710-07:002014-05-21T13:44:11.710-07:00Davidski, Genethinker already has the DNA of the s...Davidski, Genethinker already has the DNA of the stone age Swedes from Skoglund 2014, and is doing very interesting things with them.<br /><br />http://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014/05/05/analyses-of-the-stora-forvar-11-genome/ Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-71817878362014486802014-05-17T19:39:02.367-07:002014-05-17T19:39:02.367-07:00"The fact that the French and the Basque sit ..."The fact that the French and the Basque sit in the same area still has me believing that Loschbour and La Brana are largely indistinguishable. Will the genome on Loschbour be available soon? Thanks, for all of your hard work."<br /><br />Loschbour had La Brana-1-like west European hunter gatherer and around as much central-north European hunter gatherer ancestry which it seems Motala12Krefterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01055804913528477710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-77968164294322427902014-05-17T18:45:37.453-07:002014-05-17T18:45:37.453-07:00Great work, David! I am wondering where the French...Great work, David! I am wondering where the French samples were taken. It appears that many French are lacking as much ANE as was reported. It looks like they can be modeled as having almost zero ANE ancestry. I am sure Northern France has to be different. Southern France, I am sure is going to be similar to the Basque. The Southern French are almost the same as the Basque in terms of EEF Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118937611048574688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-86909202944730174302014-05-15T09:55:47.273-07:002014-05-15T09:55:47.273-07:00David, could you carry out a similar experiment wi...David, could you carry out a similar experiment with ADMIXTURE analyses rather than PCAs?Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-20713805213711683472014-05-14T07:11:57.041-07:002014-05-14T07:11:57.041-07:00"Does the PCA here tell us more or less? The ..."Does the PCA here tell us more or less? The generalised West Eurasian PCA samples more populations, but do we know for sure that the trends to variation between those populations (and so the PCAs they form) are as relevant to La Brana?"<br /><br />They are just two different approaches. Probably, as you incorporate more and more distinctive West Asian pops., notably Palestinians and Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-76738226106304500452014-05-14T03:29:15.233-07:002014-05-14T03:29:15.233-07:00I changed the shape of the plots slightly, to help...I changed the shape of the plots slightly, to help people appreciate that the horizontal axis represents eigenvector (or PC) one.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.com