tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post7728597772835239868..comments2024-03-28T17:16:03.042-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: The focus turns to the Kazakh steppeDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-81697932187616510192017-08-26T18:43:35.215-07:002017-08-26T18:43:35.215-07:00The Chinese scientist in question is Qiaomei Fu, w...The Chinese scientist in question is Qiaomei Fu, who was first author on the paper where Vestonice, Goyet, El Miron and other Paleolithic European genomes were first presented. Hopefully this excellent standard of work continues.P Piranhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07594106242948318068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-86034511950889312232017-08-26T10:04:46.932-07:002017-08-26T10:04:46.932-07:00Other exciting news from the same interview with D...Other exciting news from the same interview with David Reich:<br /><br /><i>“There are scientists in my laboratory working on East Asian population history. We have data from a lot of present-day people from Tibet, from China, different ethnic groups within China, Southeast Asia. Very little is known about East Asian population history in comparison to European and Near Eastern population historyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-62499028472661366642017-08-26T07:47:09.721-07:002017-08-26T07:47:09.721-07:00Where the Kelteminar pottery influenced by the Pot...Where the Kelteminar pottery influenced by the Pottery that spread from Lake Baikal ? The Lake Baikal Pottery spreaders could have been Haplo-QRic Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-31263058689021894132017-08-26T03:53:45.798-07:002017-08-26T03:53:45.798-07:00Any idea if there are more ancient egyptian studie...Any idea if there are more ancient egyptian studies coming up?Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17386123430230365251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-34119565088280910322017-08-26T03:39:42.046-07:002017-08-26T03:39:42.046-07:00It'd be nice if they could get a really good p...It'd be nice if they could get a really good post Bronze Age transect all through the Iron Age, antiquity and Middle Ages (going by western periodisation). <br /><br />Many regions in West and Central Europe are probably pretty boring and stable during that time frame, but for Kazakstan I'd like to know how they moved from populations where they're like of the Samartians (presumably) Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517454865405705885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-11179410206648907562017-08-26T02:49:20.173-07:002017-08-26T02:49:20.173-07:00Maybe Botai was spreading more than horses Maybe Botai was spreading more than horses Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07166839601638241857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-1600125828755903932017-08-26T02:40:24.639-07:002017-08-26T02:40:24.639-07:00I0434 I meanI0434 I meanAnthro Surveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686104871694563174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-9916224501650374502017-08-26T02:39:39.431-07:002017-08-26T02:39:39.431-07:00Wow, very interesting sample that I0429 is! The ge...Wow, very interesting sample that I0429 is! The geographical proximity of Kelteminar to the Samara region renders the scenario plausible. <br /><br />Another possibility: Perhaps the yet more proximal Volga delta(circa Astrakhan) harbored some interesting Iran_N shifted pop we don't know about?<br />What has archaeology yielded from there thus far?Anthro Surveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686104871694563174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-42769172386304741132017-08-26T01:41:05.253-07:002017-08-26T01:41:05.253-07:00I'm wondering whether the Q Khvalynsk guy migh...I'm wondering whether the Q Khvalynsk guy might have been a brief visitor from Botai or Kelteminar, before he got whacked over the head by the locals?<br /><br />http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2017/02/the-khvalynsk-men-2_16.htmlDavidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-3344708764605121512017-08-26T01:29:02.461-07:002017-08-26T01:29:02.461-07:00Piranha and all,
Those Central Asia foragers woul...Piranha and all,<br /><br />Those Central Asia foragers would have been absorbed into the incoming, Iran_N-rich Neolithic migrants in much the same way WHG got absorbed into EEF-rich farmer arrivals in Europe. <br /><br />By 1500BC there wouldn't really be any "pure" ANE populations anywhere, I take it. <br /><br />So, my prediction for Kelteminar is Iran_Hotu+extra ANE. Eastern Anthro Surveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686104871694563174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-32852433565423980002017-08-25T23:13:53.407-07:002017-08-25T23:13:53.407-07:00Interesting. I read that there was a migration fro...Interesting. I read that there was a migration from the Hissar region during the Late Mesolithic into the area where the Kelteminar originated.<br /><br />That is what made me think of the Burusho/Hunza people and their R2a.Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-5834054674323004522017-08-25T22:45:59.210-07:002017-08-25T22:45:59.210-07:00I'm thinking Q. But Kelteminar can't be al...I'm thinking Q. But Kelteminar can't be all that different from Iran_Hotu, because Hotu Cave is near the Turkestan border, so maybe some J as well.<br />Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-46553266638601913492017-08-25T22:40:53.061-07:002017-08-25T22:40:53.061-07:00@ Davidski
Any guises at what the Keltiminar Y-D...@ Davidski <br /><br />Any guises at what the Keltiminar Y-DNA could be ? I personally think some more R2 could maybe pop up.Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-5188102335179911962017-08-25T19:21:04.833-07:002017-08-25T19:21:04.833-07:00The article was probably shelved for a while and p...The article was probably shelved for a while and published now because of the Minoan/Mycenaean paper.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-64704667909085994162017-08-25T19:06:34.549-07:002017-08-25T19:06:34.549-07:00I think the interview was more recent. It just cam...I think the interview was more recent. It just came out a couple days ago. So, it might be a year or more before we see anything from there.Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118937611048574688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-72830492448843768782017-08-25T19:00:29.332-07:002017-08-25T19:00:29.332-07:00The really interesting question for me will involv...The really interesting question for me will involve the extra ANE-EHG in Iron Age Steppe genomes: did it come from Siberia, or was it from local Central Asian foragers? Does it clade in EHG, or outside of it with ANE? If some form of ENA was found there that would be equally surprising. <br /><br />Either way, Central Asian foragers do not appear to have left a big impact in any population P Piranhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07594106242948318068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-22784834844256108662017-08-25T16:58:39.488-07:002017-08-25T16:58:39.488-07:00@Karl Dark
Yes, see here...
http://eurogenes.blo...@Karl Dark<br /><br />Yes, see here...<br /><br />http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2017/04/zarathushtra-and-his-steppe-posse.html<br /><br />But the data from the paper are now available here, and I'll be including it in my dataset.<br /><br />https://figshare.com/articles/Indian_Zoroastrian_and_Indian_Hindu_genotype_data_from_Lopez_et_al_17/5223583/1Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-43338464486867322292017-08-25T16:52:43.311-07:002017-08-25T16:52:43.311-07:00A new paper on the genetic legacy of Zoroastrianis...A new paper on the genetic legacy of Zoroastrianism in Iran and India published 24 August 2017: http://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(17)30291-4Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02182074447056114891noreply@blogger.com