tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post7851482392795606030..comments2024-03-19T02:38:12.460-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: Late PIE ground zero now obvious; location of PIE homeland still uncertain, but...Davidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger448125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-65801367759607450702021-02-06T09:41:03.400-08:002021-02-06T09:41:03.400-08:00@batman
Can you please explain how the DNA data d...@batman<br /><br />Can you please explain how the DNA data disproves Gimbutas' theories, which theories and how? Many thanks.Elisha Shekinahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12694134170701003559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-30482770976579834402020-06-19T23:02:04.113-07:002020-06-19T23:02:04.113-07:00Update to ISOGG 2019:
Of the five Varna individua...Update to ISOGG 2019: <br />Of the five Varna individuals reported in Mathieson et al. 2018, the four males are CT, G2, G2a2b2b, and R1b1(b) (updated to ISOGG 2019), the latter male with mtHg U4. Is that what you regard as "50 % Yamnaya-like"?<br />With "They sequenced all of three Early Bronze Age Anatolians of obscure origin (are they actually suspected Anatolian speakers, like archlingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205642607246740258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-42994469980707382202019-07-28T14:27:48.089-07:002019-07-28T14:27:48.089-07:00@lingo
It could easily have been due to the stron...@lingo<br /><br /><i>It could easily have been due to the strong influence, so-called adstrate of powerful Iranian invaders (e.g., Skythians!).</i><br /><br />This is an idiotic argument, because there's no significant Iranian influence in Baltic languages.<br /><br />Indeed, Baltic languages are highly conservative.<br />Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-6100674263403087342019-07-28T07:57:09.224-07:002019-07-28T07:57:09.224-07:00"For instance, Balto-Slavic is considered far..."For instance, Balto-Slavic is considered far more closely related to Indo-Iranian"<br />It is not. 1. This view is only based upon the Centum-satem divide, which Historical Linguists long regard as a very late sound shift. It could easily have been due to the strong influence, so-called adstrate of powerful Iranian invaders (e.g., Skythians!).<br />2. The second reason may be the archlingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205642607246740258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-23722893549989987282019-05-03T03:00:18.418-07:002019-05-03T03:00:18.418-07:00Hello everyone, I saw comments from people who alr...Hello everyone, I saw comments from people who already got their loan from Jackson Walton Loan Company, honestly i thought it was a scam , and then I decided to apply under their recommendations and just few days ago I confirmed in my own personal bank account a total amount of $29,000 which I requested for business. This is really a great news and i am so happy, I am advising everyone who needs Jane Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10110836920168190449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-34722575678557927212018-07-09T06:30:47.097-07:002018-07-09T06:30:47.097-07:00@Joe Flood
Beaker culture covered NE Europe? Are ...@Joe Flood<br /><br />Beaker culture covered NE Europe? Are you sure? Have a look at a decent map of the Bell Beaker spread.<br /><br />And are you claiming that Beaker culture moved to India too?<br /><br />Nope, it didn't. Steppe culture moved to India, along with R1a-M417, which is from the steppe, as well as steppe autosomal DNA, which is now pervasive across Europe.<br /><br />Grow a Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-75149496554676394352018-07-09T05:51:07.287-07:002018-07-09T05:51:07.287-07:00Why do people keep talking about the 'concentr...Why do people keep talking about the 'concentration of R1b in Yamnaya', when being L51-, it has nothing to do with the R1b found in Western Europe, which is L51+. An amazing selective blindness continues to persist in the blogosphere, even three years after Haak et al glossed over this terribly obvious fact and set the<br /> ball rolling. <br /><br />NO WE HAVENT found the IE homeland - Joe Floodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14684083205595693107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-84136841943461440582017-07-29T03:01:12.452-07:002017-07-29T03:01:12.452-07:00I'm pretty sure there's a consensus that B...I'm pretty sure there's a consensus that Balto-Slavic is more closely related to Indo-Iranian than to, say, Celtic and Italic. See here...<br /><br />http://www.baltistica.lt/index.php/baltistica/article/view/2284<br /><br />Go and argue about it with the historical linguists.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-32723968048954200272017-07-29T02:16:47.127-07:002017-07-29T02:16:47.127-07:00"Secondly, Balto-Slavic, Celtic and Germanic ..."Secondly, Balto-Slavic, Celtic and Germanic are not more closely related to each other than to some of the other late PIE branches. For instance, Balto-Slavic is considered far more closely related to Indo-Iranian ..."<br /> This and other items prove that You are not really at home about IE subgrouping. E.g., Chang/Garrett (2015) was a very idiosyncratic linguistic approach to a archlingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205642607246740258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-37549163387883010822017-06-22T15:45:09.182-07:002017-06-22T15:45:09.182-07:00The yDNA argues the invasion of R1a defined the In...The yDNA argues the invasion of R1a defined the Indian culture -- and, in terms of the Brahmin (Hindu), it still does. This was known and published in 2011 -- so six years ago.<br />NOTHING has been presented to refute the connection from India across Europe and the evolution of culture being directly related to R1a in India.<br />You cannot refute where the R1a yDNA appears... nor that it has noshreknangsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04576717557005032111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-52158679253064676442017-05-24T08:16:00.035-07:002017-05-24T08:16:00.035-07:00@MaxT
<"location of PIE homeland still un...@MaxT<br /><br /><"location of PIE homeland still uncertain"<br /><br /><They already know it's the steppes, they want to make it look like its up for debate <until they release all the papers. <br /><br />If "They" includes me, I sure don't know the location of the homeland, and <br /> certainly won't unless and until we understand the origin of the Nick Patterson (Broad)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15606881879148004553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-79114097007660970002017-05-19T21:19:09.364-07:002017-05-19T21:19:09.364-07:00I think the Ancient Shamans(Doctors) and Elders ha...I think the Ancient Shamans(Doctors) and Elders had an idea what inbreeding can do to a population through thousands of years of accumulated knowledge by observation.<br /><br /> So I think it is quite possible that the Shamans and Elders encouraged some breeding with outside populations.Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-9249408909874345182017-05-19T20:13:59.490-07:002017-05-19T20:13:59.490-07:00The CHG-heavy Yamnaya female is definitely support...The CHG-heavy Yamnaya female is definitely supports the Caucasian bride theory.<br /><br />Because in the supplementary info it is mentioned that a mail order bride receipt was found in her grave. Apparently she was sold for 5 goats. I think the CHG men riped Yamnaya off with that price but that's another discussion. <br /><br />But seriously if her X-Chromsome is overwhelmingly CHG and if Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-19847167593039165002017-05-18T21:24:09.763-07:002017-05-18T21:24:09.763-07:00Hehe I was kidding bro. Hehe I was kidding bro. Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-84909852783660878142017-05-18T21:07:00.147-07:002017-05-18T21:07:00.147-07:00But certainly they are holding back females!
Obvi...<i>But certainly they are holding back females!</i><br /><br />Obviously not since all three Yamnaya individuals and the singleton Eneolithic individual from Ukraine are all females.<br /><br />The really interesting thing you're ignoring is that one of these Yamnaya females from Ukraine is by far the most West Asian shifted of the Yamnaya samples currently available. And the Eneolithic Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-55116033996203555122017-05-18T20:42:18.585-07:002017-05-18T20:42:18.585-07:00But certainly they are holding back females! ...But certainly they are holding back females! ...Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-63091404420385818322017-05-18T19:56:08.742-07:002017-05-18T19:56:08.742-07:00@ Davidski
Thanks @ Davidski <br /><br />Thanks Ric Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-84413756374444583082017-05-18T17:14:26.320-07:002017-05-18T17:14:26.320-07:00OK, please note that Broad MIT/Harvard are not hol...OK, please note that Broad MIT/Harvard are not holding back any Yamnaya males from Ukraine for future papers, as suggested by me in the blog entry. They published what they had. Sorry.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-27745197351418145252017-05-18T07:27:17.945-07:002017-05-18T07:27:17.945-07:00@ zardos
Interesting paper thanks.
If that date...@ zardos <br /><br />Interesting paper thanks.<br /><br />If that dates of domestication is accurate then it surely seems to rule out Maykop and Balkan Neolithic Farmers as the source of cattle domestication within the Steppe. It also rules out Maykop as the source. <br /><br />This only leaves Northeast Anatolian who were not far from the first proposed domestication site in the Taurus MountainsRic Hernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15069642772317562249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-18256159729696965662017-05-17T23:48:16.326-07:002017-05-17T23:48:16.326-07:00This papers propose the possibility of an incipien...This papers propose the possibility of an incipient form of pastoralism in mesolithic northwest iberia 9300 cal BP. Elba, mtDNA U5b1 http://www.iux.es/artigos/cadernos39.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00336648635525568530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-10262491814846073832017-05-17T23:33:48.948-07:002017-05-17T23:33:48.948-07:00@Gaspar
Thanks. I thought you had some data about ...@Gaspar<br />Thanks. I thought you had some data about that. My issue is posted above, some diffuse ideas about the homeland of PIE, or protoPIE or howsoever should be called, locating it in Anatolia-Fertile Crescent areaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00336648635525568530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-43448399486808966422017-05-17T19:41:13.340-07:002017-05-17T19:41:13.340-07:00zardos
"By the way, there is a good paper ab...zardos<br /><br />"By the way, there is a good paper about the first Eastern European cattle breeders"<br /><br />ty<br /><br />the other thing i wonder about is vitamin A deficiency - best sources of vitamin A:<br />- fish<br />- liver<br />- eggs<br />- cheese<br />- butter<br />- milk (if drinkable)<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency<br /><br />one of the Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398462488549380796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-52996486757037822812017-05-17T16:37:51.298-07:002017-05-17T16:37:51.298-07:00@grey: Being on the move is also more healthy. You...@grey: Being on the move is also more healthy. You can escape plagues and foes, while having your food always with you. Just look at the dirt of a tell settlement, dirt of generations of settlers piling up. <br /><br />By the way, there is a good paper about the first Eastern European cattle breeders<br />http://www.academia.edu/1538133/Kotova_N.zardoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17818491540055232430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-57270448183596439912017-05-17T15:18:29.961-07:002017-05-17T15:18:29.961-07:00@ Kristiina,
THANK YOU for th...@ Kristiina,<br /> THANK YOU for the mtDNA comparison posts! Really appreciate your research.( all 3 H6a1a's mentioned were female)jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12283765275775165180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-54033393647063119222017-05-17T12:58:53.257-07:002017-05-17T12:58:53.257-07:00This is for laughs. So I posted links to the new a...This is for laughs. So I posted links to the new ancient DNA paper on Maju's blog.<br /><br />Even after reading these papers Maju still argues R1b P312 originated in Neolithic France and that Corded Ware got its R1a from native Neolithic or Mesolithic Eastern Europeans. And he thinks elevated WHG ancestry is being confused as Steppe ancestry....<br /><br />https://Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.com