tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post8385858977700646494..comments2024-03-28T02:40:18.114-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: More on the stone age plagueDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-90896412354652278452016-12-17T16:19:53.743-08:002016-12-17T16:19:53.743-08:00Just spotted an error in this preprint. They confu...Just spotted an error in this preprint. They confused Afanasievo with Andronovo. Check this out...<br /><br />"The Baltic Y. pestis genomes are genetically derived from the strain that was found in the ‘Andronovo Complex’ from the Altai region."<br /><br />Nope, RISE509 with the oldest plague strain is from an Afanasievo burial.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-60740848130590525042016-12-17T13:20:53.285-08:002016-12-17T13:20:53.285-08:00if marmots are the natural carrier then unless the...if marmots are the natural carrier then unless the steppe dudes liked pet marmots i don't see how it would spread much beyond their natural habitat without ships - that doesn't mean it didn't just that might be a clue to how it did, if it did Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13398462488549380796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-42838567855182429722016-12-16T17:59:27.969-08:002016-12-16T17:59:27.969-08:00Fanty, where did you hear about DNA results from F...Fanty, where did you hear about DNA results from French and Spanish Bell Beaker?Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-75722089186365210632016-12-16T17:57:56.615-08:002016-12-16T17:57:56.615-08:00related:
the Mongol army hurled plague-infected c...related:<br /><br />the Mongol army hurled plague-infected cadavers into the besieged Crimean city of Caffa, thereby transmitting the disease to the inhabitants; and that fleeing survivors of the siege spread plague from Caffa to the Mediterranean Basin. If this account is correct, Caffa should be recognized as the site of the most spectacular incident of biological warfare ever, with the Black Romulus the I2a L233+ Proto Balto-Slav, layer of Corded Ware Womenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10022650074050864850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-39926635080916798172016-12-16T13:20:18.999-08:002016-12-16T13:20:18.999-08:00@fanty.
.... hum. fantasy. @fanty.<br />.... hum. fantasy. Olympus Monshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640679631703214884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-39919387712212691152016-12-16T12:25:14.493-08:002016-12-16T12:25:14.493-08:00From my mind, can be wrong:
Yamna: 1005 steppe
Co...From my mind, can be wrong:<br /><br />Yamna: 1005 steppe<br />Corded: 80% steppe<br />Unetice: 60% steppe<br />Bellbeaker Germany: 40% steppe<br />Bellbeaker Spain: 30% steppe<br /><br />or something like that anyways.Fantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07969348276219179258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-71755120304904756952016-12-16T12:20:16.234-08:002016-12-16T12:20:16.234-08:00beakers of course, not bakers. lolbeakers of course, not bakers. lolFantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07969348276219179258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-51748637464231478582016-12-16T12:19:39.447-08:002016-12-16T12:19:39.447-08:00"Well too bad they didn't get dna from th..."Well too bad they didn't get dna from the "real" BB. that would put to rest their origin in the midst of steppe, wouldn't it?"<br /><br />No. I recall there was a test on more western than Germany bellbakers. They had lower steppe anchestry but still significant. I am to lazy to check out, but from my mind it was like German bellbakers 40-50% steppe anchestry and ... Fantyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07969348276219179258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-86038676741611959302016-12-16T09:07:53.474-08:002016-12-16T09:07:53.474-08:00Like the Map.
Yamnaya in its archaeological place,...Like the Map.<br />Yamnaya in its archaeological place, that honest white space between them and CWC, the half breeds (BB/CWC) in dark purple and the original Bell beakers on on lighter purple. ... Well too bad they didn't get dna from the "real" BB. that would put to rest their origin in the midst of steppe, wouldn't it?<br /><br /> Olympus Monshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08640679631703214884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-30497864503169334562016-12-15T23:22:56.841-08:002016-12-15T23:22:56.841-08:00Once again, no sign of the necessary transmission ...Once again, no sign of the necessary transmission or virulence factors responsible for the modern plague. This strain could not survive in fleas, so it is not very transmissions at all. It may have manifested as a tuberculosis-like or hepatitis-like disease.Ryukendo Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00824502055247415801noreply@blogger.com