tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post8904130502922958868..comments2024-03-18T22:01:02.498-07:00Comments on Eurogenes Blog: Ancient herders from the Pontic-Caspian steppe crashed into India: no ifs or butsDavidskihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comBlogger269125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-69250266238898815332020-06-18T05:15:26.012-07:002020-06-18T05:15:26.012-07:00Where to look for Ultra Pure 360 Keto Diet?
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"specially the ones when they explici...@JohnP <br />"specially the ones when they explicitly say that they are from elsewhere, not India."<br /><br />LMAO! Thanks for exposing your retardation. Go and read Shrikant Talageri's work on this. He has proved the origin of Aryans is in India as per Vedic and Avestan texts.Samurai Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522324215317108756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-4447520052993187972017-11-09T03:58:45.281-08:002017-11-09T03:58:45.281-08:00"The reason for no Clear Archaeological Mater..."The reason for no Clear Archaeological Material connection between Steppe and India could maybe be that Steppe people adopted the Cultures that they came into contact with, much like what happened in Western Europe with the Bell Beaker phenomenon...."<br /><br />Or could be the oversimpfication and trying too hard to fit a false theory, couldn't it?Samurai Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00522324215317108756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-60926081251896386282017-06-30T20:35:52.897-07:002017-06-30T20:35:52.897-07:00The article that was linked to was fact free. If y...The article that was linked to was fact free. If you think that it did offer something useful then you're living in la la land like the author. Too bad for you.<br /><br />And you'll see exactly how "crazy" I am when the ancient DNA data from South Asia are published.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-65109044363188322552017-06-30T20:06:15.834-07:002017-06-30T20:06:15.834-07:00Wow David your going from bitter to outright crazy...Wow David your going from bitter to outright crazy. Being more equivocal would serve you better. Ramihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08212726536809592734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-58967311974998167852017-06-29T09:24:02.832-07:002017-06-29T09:24:02.832-07:00@Aditya Singh
The article you linked to is nonsen...@Aditya Singh<br /><br />The article you linked to is nonsense. The author is arguing that up is down and down is up based on outdated data.Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-11020674089063421552017-06-29T08:00:51.001-07:002017-06-29T08:00:51.001-07:00Argument similar to Jaydeep made here. Only ancien...Argument similar to Jaydeep made here. Only ancient DNA from subcontinent will prove the correct migration theory. This matter is far from settled.<br />http://indiafacts.org/propagandizing-aryan-invasion-debate-rebuttal-tony-joseph/<br />primeargumenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13334888669233995058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-9888184423448609002017-06-27T08:12:03.162-07:002017-06-27T08:12:03.162-07:00@Azarov Dmitry
"Steppe tundra was not covere...@Azarov Dmitry<br /><br />"Steppe tundra was not covered with ice but still it was a very harsh place for living. While the Iranian Plateau was a zone with pretty good climate and it could ensure survival of large groups of pops. It’s like a choice between Siberia and Florida. There’s no need to stay in ass frozing hell if you can migrated only 1000 km and live in sunny paradise."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-80963677648042702552017-06-27T00:36:47.971-07:002017-06-27T00:36:47.971-07:00Well I wish I could, but things are moving so quic...Well I wish I could, but things are moving so quickly in this area and related fields that just about all of the books out there are outdated.<br /><br />Best thing you can do is to go through this blog and read the entries that you're interested in plus the scientific papers that they link to.<br /><br />Or you can just wait for the big ancient DNA papers on South Asia that will come out Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-69626696530352323782017-06-27T00:11:38.854-07:002017-06-27T00:11:38.854-07:00Hello,
Can you suggest me a top 20 books to make s...Hello,<br />Can you suggest me a top 20 books to make sense of the debate going on in here. Comrade Theodorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17443035198431808158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-30960310270938793132017-06-26T17:18:03.529-07:002017-06-26T17:18:03.529-07:00This wait for the next papers is too tense, some ...This wait for the next papers is too tense, some History is on the brink of being solved. Does anyone know if the Mycenaean samples are of elite burials, and how many samples there possibly could be, is there a chance of any Iron age samples being included. As for the IE question, these Mycenaeans will be of utter importance, IMO more so then the IVC reults.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12247827023065791809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-73619151926800054112017-06-26T00:47:03.322-07:002017-06-26T00:47:03.322-07:00@ Davidski, great, thanks:
Proportion comparisons...@ Davidski, great, thanks:<br /><br />Proportion comparisons between these two models and five populations:<br />http://i.imgur.com/N65vkiE.png<br /><br />Problem stats with the model with Munda and India_South relate to the greater relatedness of ANE related populations to Ami than Andamanese...<br /><br />f4( Yor Cau And Ami) model: 0, reality: 0.004032, difference: 0.004032, standard error?: Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517454865405705885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-15036100462744659312017-06-25T18:33:59.873-07:002017-06-25T18:33:59.873-07:00@Matt
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8...@Matt<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQRkR0YzBNOVczQk0/view?usp=sharing<br /><br />And I don't have Ami, Kharia and Paniya in the same dataset, so...<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQLVpJOHBESkZNajQ/view?usp=sharing<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQdVl6RVFTM2ZsMEU/view?usp=sharingDavidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-61924961651526764202017-06-25T11:27:33.088-07:002017-06-25T11:27:33.088-07:00@Sleept Kat
All camel remains north of BMAC befor...@Sleept Kat<br /><br />All camel remains north of BMAC before 1200BCE are now classified as onager remains. Camels became common sometimes after 1000BCE and really common when the Silk Road came to be.<br /><br /><br />@Ric Hern<br /><br />Most Out Of India people believe in an Indo-European language that came out of IVC, which is not possible.Varahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034396078823795105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-52375776126316710762017-06-25T09:19:17.107-07:002017-06-25T09:19:17.107-07:00For the model that includes Ami I have such two gh...For the model that includes Ami I have such two ghosts (Global_10):<br /><br />ASI_1,0.00759,-0.02969,-0.01979,0.00212,0.0105,-0.09284,0.05197,-0.00925,-0.08897,0.0092<br />ASI_2,0.00221,-0.03327,-0.02672,0.01189,0.01256,-0.09203,0.04807,-0.01071,-0.09079,0.00629<br /><br />ASI_1 is based on Iran_N I1945 and Chamar<br />ASI_2 is based on Ami and Bonda<br /><br />Population,Iran_Neolithic:I1945,Arzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10459843383682766479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-58264569642370468652017-06-25T08:19:11.637-07:002017-06-25T08:19:11.637-07:00@ Matt
With Ami added to the equation it looks lik...@ Matt<br />With Ami added to the equation it looks like that: <br />https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-916NcQGoqoo/WU_T1Gpp5fI/AAAAAAAAAPY/jqzHhDQzUF48z2BCcPgO1KZewKogfm5cACLcBGAs/s1600/IndiaModelAmi.pngArzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10459843383682766479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-72817762371819235422017-06-25T07:09:42.918-07:002017-06-25T07:09:42.918-07:00@ Matt
Maybe this will help you a little bit:
htt...@ Matt<br />Maybe this will help you a little bit:<br /><br />https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SVEFLfe-Q8Q/WU_Ch_kPk2I/AAAAAAAAAPI/3le37BXchh0HAJ4lQWkcxiBNq9aT9gsTQCLcBGAs/s1600/IndiaModel.png<br /><br />May contain peanuts and an answer to Garvan's question:<br /><i>b) Would the model work if Iran_Neolithic ancestry came in two waves, both before the steppe admixture, and again as part of the Arzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10459843383682766479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-67408632429720231842017-06-25T07:06:24.354-07:002017-06-25T07:06:24.354-07:00Thanks. Funnily enough it seems like the second mo...Thanks. Funnily enough it seems like the second model with a separate ASI which is Iran_N related plus ENA actually gave a worse Z score fit. I was not expecting that.<br /><br />Proportions looking at the better model where Paniya and Brahmin_India are co-fit<br /><br />Brahmin_India: Iran_N - 32%, CHG - 18%, EHG - 16%, South_Asian - 34% (total Steppe - 34%).<br /><br />Paniya: Iran_N - 9%, CHG Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517454865405705885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-44195824405895823362017-06-25T04:45:56.447-07:002017-06-25T04:45:56.447-07:00@Matt
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XSV9HEoq...@Matt<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XSV9HEoqpFQlRJRGdiRWpSMWs/view?usp=sharing<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XSV9HEoqpFRlFydDlOY0NwNWM/view?usp=sharingDavidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-85615285386631342152017-06-25T04:07:13.594-07:002017-06-25T04:07:13.594-07:00Yep, just I was thinking instead of Paniya and Gon...Yep, just I was thinking instead of Paniya and Gond on the same graph, using Paniya and Brahmin_India on the same graph: https://pastebin.com/5cUYqr3N<br /><br />Basically because the input of D9 and D7 into D10 differs for Paniya and Brahmin_India, so I was interested in how that would affect the model, and whether that would make a model necessary where you have an extra D7+C2 population Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517454865405705885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-47254728292106938342017-06-25T03:07:38.300-07:002017-06-25T03:07:38.300-07:00The Saudi Z2124*'s surname is Kurdi. He used t...The Saudi Z2124*'s surname is Kurdi. He used to use Turkey as country of origin but apparently has changed it to KSA later on.MfAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624738204767039283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-42635220186579012012017-06-25T02:57:16.609-07:002017-06-25T02:57:16.609-07:00@Matt
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XSV9HEoq...@Matt<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XSV9HEoqpFdmVvMFZ3ZFVNTmM/view?usp=sharing<br /><br />You mean like this?<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XSV9HEoqpFWFAtZ1FXMi1UWUU/view?usp=sharing<br /><br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8XSV9HEoqpFSG5oSEREVHN0Wmc/view?usp=sharing<br /><br />Davidskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04637918905430604850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-39318729993923215972017-06-25T02:16:28.139-07:002017-06-25T02:16:28.139-07:00"It's actually pretty funny reading some ..."It's actually pretty funny reading some Slavocentric posts about how Zarathushtra was born around the Volga! Yep, the owner of the golden camels lived in an area were no camels lived!"<br /><br />Well, you might laugh... But camels were actually common in Volga region until half a century ago. Nowadays only very few are left.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517789640937880276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-32373845704377272592017-06-25T01:15:05.457-07:002017-06-25T01:15:05.457-07:00Hmm, that didn't work. Can't improve that ...Hmm, that didn't work. Can't improve that model with simply an edge from Iran_N.<br /><br />Could try a Steppe_EMBA edge there, but I think I'll abandon variations on this model.<br /><br />@ Davidski, changing tack, have you tried modelling the maximum ASI populations with your successful main model? That's populations like GujaratiD, Paniya. Also populations that look like ASI+Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517454865405705885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4123559132014627431.post-39650694824138661542017-06-25T01:08:14.202-07:002017-06-25T01:08:14.202-07:00@Ric Hern
Nationalist Indians very much want take...@Ric Hern<br /><br />Nationalist Indians very much want take pride in the uniqueness of Indian civilization and want to unite Indo-Aryans, Dravidians and other people of India under on nationalists ideology so AMT is a big problem for them because it very much means that Indian civilization took impulses from the West (not just Aryans but also Neolithic farmers from Iran) and that there is someColdmountainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18351446992955041786noreply@blogger.com