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Sunday, June 22, 2025

‘Proto-Yamnaya’ Eneolithic individuals from Kuban steppe c. 3700 BC ? (guest post)


This is a guest post by an anonymous contributor. I don't necessarily agree with its findings, but I think it's a good way to get the ball rolling here again. Feel free to let me know what you think. Please note, however, that any comments that show mental instability will be blocked. No more crazy talk on this blog.

In order to understand who Yamnaya people were, one must first define ‘Yamnaya’. We will adopt a strictu sensu view (e.g. Anthony, Heyd) encompassing burials dating 3200-2600 BC, with a characteristic body position, mound construction, and copper artefacts. These complexes can be linked to a core group of people whose autosomal make-up is quite homogeneous throughout their wide geographic range. Moreover, almost all males belong to Y-haplogroup R1b-M269-Z2103. In this light, ‘core Yamnaya’ does not represent a ‘proto-Indo-European’ population, as commonly proclaimed, but a group which contributed to several post-PIE population-language complexes, such as Tocharian, Armenian and some Paleo-Balkan languages. However, historical linguistics is not the focus of this post.

Archeologists had linked Yamnaya to earlier complexes such as Khvalynsk, Repin and/or Mikhalivka. Given that cultural markers such as pottery and burial customs can be borrowed and copied, ancient DNA can offer a more objective assessment of population origins. However, the cacophony of clusters, clines and other statistical constructs in publications can be confusing. A more rationalized approach is required, and one way is to co-analyse phylogenetically linked individuals across space and time. Apart from a lower-quality individual from Smyadovo (Bulgaria c. 4300 BC), the earliest attestation of R1b-M269 is in two individuals from the Kuban steppe (Stavropol region) c. 3700 BC -NV3003 and KST001 (Ghaliachi et al 2024). However, Y-hg R1b-M269 is missing in currently sampled Kuban steppe and north Caucasian males from the preceding period (5000-4000 BC). Males of the ‘Kuban steppe 4500bc’ group (Progress, Vojnucka, Sengeleevskiy, etc) are instead derived for the phylogenetically divergent Y-hg Rb-V1636. Males from the Nalchik cemetery are also derived for Y-hg R1b-V1636, or related haplotypes, although they were buried in a ‘Caucasian Farmer’ pose and heavily infused with such ancestry, but probably also had a burial mound thrown above. We do not know when the R1b-V1636 clans entered the northern Caucasus region, or from where, but they appear to have been attracted by trade with North Caucasian Famer (~Eneolithic) groups- termed as ‘Meshoko-Zamok’, ‘Chokh’, etc, in literature. Curiously the Nalchik group has minimal Central Asian (“TTK-related”) ancestry, whilst the Kuban steppe group has high levels. This suggests that TTK-related ancestry arrived after R1b-V1636 dominant EHG clans entered the North Caucasus region, but other scenarios are possible. Lastly, two ‘Meshoko culture’ males from Unakozovskaya have been assigned to Y-hg J2a-L26.

A shake-up occurred in the north Caucasus after 4000 BC. As we know, this corresponds to the emergence of the Majkop phenomenon, catalysed by renewed migrations from the south. These were not ‘Uruk migrants’ as sometimes proposed - the Uruk phenomenon occurred several hundred years later and was a south Mesopotamian phenomenon. Instead, these newcomers emerge from southern Caucasus- north Mesopotamian ‘Late Chalcolithic’ groups. They brought with them multiple West Asian lineages, such as Y-hg T, L2, J2a-, J2b, G2. Over time they mixed with preceding north Caucasian Eneolithic groups, culminating in the Novosvobodnaja phenomenon.

The emergence of Majkop as a new socio-cultural complex broke down the previous system dominated by Y-hg R1b-V1636 clans. The Majkop sphere consisted of a ‘core’ of heterarchical chiefs buried in elaborate kurgans near the Mountains, and a dynamic northern ‘frontier’ in the steppe lands (as far as the lower Don) between 4000 and 3000 BC. At least 3 ‘‘Majkop periphery’ genetic groups can be defined; in fact all these groups can be termed ‘steppe Majkop’:

1- Group with western Siberian/ north central Asian ancestry (the ‘genetic steppe Majkop’ as defined in Wang et al, 2023)
2- The South Caucasian/north Iranian ‘Zolotarevka’ group
3- The R1b-M269 duo.

Regardless of their lineages and genomic affinities, these individuals were often buried in kurgans which over time formed groups. These were not continuations of pre-4000 BC kurgans, but the communities instead made a conscious choice to build new kurgans after 4000 BC, adding to the idea of discontinuity. But once built, these kurgan clusters continued to be developed for hundreds of years, into the Yamnaya period. This does imply ethnic homogeneity or continuity, just a ‘continuity of place’. Without a direct attestation of a phylogenetic ancestor, and guestimating from their (non-identical) genomic profile, we are left to speculate that Y-hg R1b-M269 individuals moved down from somewhere in the Volga-Don interfluve. Perhaps amongst groups utilizing Repin pottery, but if so, they did not continue its use in their new contexts. By 3000 BC, the Majkop system collapsed. Yamnaya groups and their ‘Catacomb’ descendants took control of the north Caucasus region, having benefitted from years of trade/ exchange and knowledge gathering. Whether Yamnaya actually descend from individuals like KST-1 or NV3003 remains to be seen, however these are the closest leads we have. Certainly, we can model Yamnaya as deriving from KST-1 (88%) + Dnieper_N (12%), but we should be cautious when using singular individuals as ‘sources’.
See also...

The PIE homeland controversy: December 2024 open thread

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Davidski said...

@MAD

It's impossible for Indo-European to be ~8,000 years old. That's just too old considering the direct evidence that we have of when and where Indo-European languages appeared and how similar they are to each other.

The linguists at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology are a bunch of cranks.

Their work has been repeatedly shown by historical linguists to be detached from reality.

Shomu said...

@Rob
it turns out that Mr. Allentoft made up these diagrams and schemes out of his head

Shomu said...

@Rob
this Caucasian admixture in EHG, judging by the diagram, came during LGM, and this source is not necessarily from "Dagestan", it could be Azerbaijan, or even the South Caspian refigium
https://i.ibb.co/RxWHcCh/1754795276182.jpg

Shomu said...

@Rob
yes, but these numerous J-L255 (TMRCA 19070 ybp)
https://www.theytree.com/tree/J-L255
among Eastern European hunters, are clearly not from WSHG-TTK, judging by TMRCA, this line came to them after LGM (17 thousand BC), which is confirmed by the Allentoft diagram, or then it came from the southern Caspian along the eastern Caspian route, not through the Caucasus

Rob said...

@ Shomu

''yes, but these numerous J-L255 (TMRCA 19070 ybp)
https://www.theytree.com/tree/J-L255
among Eastern European hunters, are clearly not from WSHG-TTK, judging by TMRCA, this line came to them after LGM (17 thousand BC), which is confirmed by the Allentoft diagram, or then it came from the southern Caspian along the eastern Caspian route, not through the Caucasus''

Yes there are J1 in EHG, but that supports my contention.
Even if we believe there is ~ 10-15% 'CHG' in northern EHG, then 'carrying through' the inflated CHG in EHG, this would rise to 35% in Vorezhneh and then would drop back to 10% again in Satanaj.
As a technical note, although qpGraphs are great, admixture with qpAdm suggests that northern EHG are just a 2-way mix of ANE + WHG; and there are several possible reasons for this; and the only clear CHG admixture is in the Vorezhneh Don samples.

Either way we look at it, judging like by like, there is a peak in CHG in the Vorezhneh Don, with lower values in Karelia, Minino as well as Satanaj. Hence, this is not a 'cline', but a patchwork, and supports my suggestion that if there was a cline, it existed earlier, but was erased (rather than contributed to) by Satanaj

Shomu said...

@Mr.Davidski
Who do you think is right?

Shomu said...

Big y-700 direct descendant of Stalin, on his father's side
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-Y346578/

Norfern-Ostrobothnian said...

Random J lineages is likely a game of telephone radiating from a proper CHG EHG interaction further south, CHG itself likely doesn't constitute a significant ancestry component especially among earlier EHG. Karelia HG aren't that ancient mind you.

Rob said...
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Rob said...

btw the 'early Scythians' Zaporizhia & Stavropol do seem to have quite a bit of Caucian BA acnestry, the Maeots massively

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